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Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 12:58 pm
by JesusA (imported)
A new article on eunuchs has just been published by Prof. Richard Wassersug of Dalhousie University. I am posting the abstract and the final four paragraphs of the article below. (Richard would prefer that the entire article NOT be posted on-line because of copyright restrictions of the journal.) Anyone who wants a copy of the article can either send me a <Private Message> here on the Archive, giving me an email address that can accept attachments, or they can write directly to Richard at

Tadpole (at) dal (dot) CA

In his other life, Richard is a neuroanatomist who has published extensively on tadpole morphology and metamorphosis….

Richard J. Wassersug, Emma McKenna & Tucker Lieberman (2012): Eunuch as a gender identity after castration, Journal of Gender Studies, DOI:10.1080/09589236.2012.681178

ABSTRACT: Each year hundreds of thousands of males begin long-term androgen deprivation therapy (ADT), i.e. chemical or surgical castration, to slow the progress of prostate cancer. ADT causes loss of muscle mass and body hair; genital shrinkage and erectile dysfunction; variable amounts of breast growth and the development of a characteristically post- menopausal female pattern of fat distribution. ADT also changes mood and affect, most conspicuously seen as increased emotionality and depressed libido. Given these changes, it is not surprising that many patients on ADT no longer feel ‘manly’, yet do not experience themselves as women. For many, this gender liminality is psychologically and socially traumatic. Faced with these difficulties, how can castrated males understand themselves in a positive way?

We explore the idea that some men may benefit from embracing the alternative gender identity of ‘eunuch’. Unfortunately, due in part to the historic practice of forced castration, the word ‘eunuch’ is now largely pejorative, although it is the correct biological term for a castrated male. We examine the benefits and risks of contemporary castrated males accepting this identity to help them adapt to the changes they experience.

The final four paragraphs of the 19 page article:

Eunuch identity lets individuals occupy space outside of the gender binary where they can be at once ‘male’ (at least in personal history and, to some extent, in public appearance) and ‘not male’ (in self-acceptance, in the bedroom, and in the eyes of others who accept them). A historical review reveals how eunuch identity addressed the insufficiency of the two-gender system for many castrated males. Reclaiming eunuch identity in contemporary society could mitigate the pain of liminality by grounding the castrated males in a definable alternative gender space.

Male embodiment is lived and felt against the backdrop of a phallocentric culture where a functional penis and male sexual desire signify maleness and masculinity. In our analysis, we have proposed that a loss of male phallocentric sexuality in combination with ambiguous secondary sexual characteristics and a muted libido can collectively mark the castrated male as ‘other’ – neither male nor female, man nor woman, but an alternative sex and gender.

We suggest here that, as an alternative to conceiving of themselves as ‘failed’ males, castrated males could interpret their emasculation as an opportunity to be something other than male or female. This alterity is not confined to masculine or feminine scripts, or to masculine or feminine social roles; it is in and of itself something other. We have outlined the challenges and harms posed to maintaining a masculine and male identity following castration. Many first-hand accounts show that being and performing ‘male’ in a chemically and surgically altered body becomes increasingly difficult as gender and sexuality fail to align with social norms and expectations of maleness. Castration causes a rupture in masculinity, and a refusal to look beyond a ‘failed male’ narrative will offer those men little room for moving forward into a positive place of affirmation.

Although the reasons for castration have changed, emasculation is as real and common now as ever before. The time has come to recognize the potential positive outcomes of eunuch self-identification.

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:29 pm
by MikePalmer (imported)
Wassersug has some very good you tube presentations too. Gives you good view into what to expect. I think there is a place for the modern day elective eunuch for sure.

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:55 pm
by daifu-orchid (imported)
"...Unfortunately society hates it."

Yes, there is surely no benefit to languishing as a "failed male", but many here can attest that the private enjoyment of the middle E state is very real, and IMHO, to be recommended to those who wish it, and have considered it sufficiently. The problem is social acceptance, and how to promote it?

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:05 am
by gandalf (imported)
the other problem is getting your doctor(s) to listen and help.

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:11 pm
by Begoneboy (imported)
gandalf (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:05 am the other problem is getting your doctor(s) to listen and help.

If they won't listen and help seek another doctor. There are plenty now days who are more open to the topic

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:13 pm
by tugon (imported)
I am all for eunuch self identification. I knew before my castration that I would never use HRT since I was escaping the influence of T. I wanted to be a third or middle gender. Being free of T has allowed me to exist between the binary.

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:42 pm
by sftineun (imported)
daifu-orchid (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:55 pm "...Unfortunately society hates it."

Yes, there is surely no benefit to languishing as a "failed male", but many here can attest that the private enjoyment of the middle E state is very real, and IMHO, to be recommended to those who wish it, and have considered it sufficiently. The problem is social acceptance, and how to promote it?

Social acceptance is certainly the biggest hurdle. However, like the gay movement, or any other minority group, the only way to improve our identity and self image is to build up a community. EA is a good start. But on-line forum community is hard to build relationships, trust and identification.

I really wish we have ways to meet other eunuchs in real person so we can start building a sense of a community in various regions of the country, much more frequently than the annual event in MN, which is too far for some of us to attend.

Re: Eunuch as a Gender Identity

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:24 pm
by daifu-orchid (imported)
I enjoy the eunuch place.

I can tank up to normal levels of T by once weekly trivial injection and be as male as I want.

Or, I can reduce or stop the T, and given the long duration of T cypionate, I gradually come down to pure castrate levels.

The castrate state causes flashes to start, but not as much as before, and a very pleasurable state.

What is this state? Plenty of references round here, but Tugon describes it well as a place between. I don't feel I become female but I moved away from the distinctly male. I don't cross-dress but clothing is neutral, relaxed and comfortable, and the world feels the same.

Writing this, a thought came for a new thread about moving from M to E and back. I'll not hijack this thread.

I wish I had the insight of Dr Wassersug!