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simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:59 pm
by impotentus (imported)
I was wondeering if using finasteride por a week (5 mg) daily. then start using spiro (100 mg daily, then small increases) and finally estrogen will reduce my testosterone levels. The reason is because the doctor who is in charge of chemically neutering me is on another city, and my boyfriend is solving some problems over one of his relaties death. I was chemically castrated using depoprovera, however, I only received 3 doses (300 and 150) respectively. However, since I haven`t got the last injection (which should have been two weeks ago) my sex drive seems to be returning. My libido came back. and I don`t want it back. Last night I got a somewhat weak erection, and I don`t want them anymore. Anybody has experience with this regime. Information on the subject is that finasteride will reduce DHT, after a week its levels will be lower, then adding spiro, will reduce normal testosterone levels, and finally estrogen will remove any testosterone left. so Far, no shrinkage yet, only a lot of limpness of my dick and I appear to be developing manboobs. And OHH YEAH! no more pesky erections whatsoever. Any coment will be greatly appreciated, thank you.:D

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:42 pm
by guy26 (imported)
I'm a little confused. Did your doctor prescribe the depo provera that you initially took? And if your doctor is responsible for your care, why wouldn't he continue prescribing something to lower your testosterone.

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:18 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
I personally think that depo-provera is a hit-or-miss type thing with respect to chemical castration. It basically works indirectly -- technically it is a precursor to both estrogen and testosterone, and it is only through a secondary effect where too much will suppress testosterone. You'd do better to do something that is directly binding to androgen receptors or otherwise directly blocking the effect or the production of testoterone.

Furthermore, the injections of depo-provera cause a lot of variation in actual circulating levels. The half-life of depo in a male is actually quite short (about 50 hours if I remember), meaning that if it all entered the blood stream at once that it would only have half the level within two days! So men need injections really frequently, maybe even weekly, if you really wanted stable levels. The injections are intra-muscular so will seep into the blood at different rates depending on the exact spot of injection. For someone who naturally already isn't producing much testosterone (maybe already somewhat castrate), the half life is much much longer. So if you're taking other anti-androgens at the same time you really have no control over the depo level and effect.

A daily pill of something that blocks testosterone directly is a much more predictable bet.

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:52 am
by impotentus (imported)
a bit of information on this. Where I live, depo-provera is NOT an over the counter drug. You actually need a medical prescription for it. but, spiro, finasteride and estrogen(even if it souns odd) are easily obtainable. Also, the doctor just went to attend some conference in another city. he should be here soon, but I don`t like my libido getting back.

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:28 am
by daledale (imported)
impotentus (imported) wrote: Wed May 09, 2012 5:52 am a bit of information on this. Where I live, depo-provera is NOT an over the counter drug. You actually need a medical prescription for it. but, spiro, finasteride and estrogen(even if it souns odd) are easily obtainable. Also, the doctor just went to attend some conference in another city. he should be here soon, but I don`t like my libido getting back.

Is siterone available there? It is very effective

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:41 pm
by impotentus (imported)
Unfortunately, researching in the topic is Siterone is not available. Bicalutamide (another option) is tremendously expensive so spiro is pretty much the only option I have, followed by estrogen and finasteride.

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:02 pm
by harveywrwh (imported)
SplitDik; I would like to get more info on Depo Provera, Plus I would like to talk to you about using Depo, I have used Depo in the passed, But would like more info, I have had a problem in the past with prostate cancer, had part of the prostate removed, I have also talked to my Doctor about using Depo to lower my testostrone level. That was not a question to ask the Doctor, How long does Depo stay in the body, after injection. I would like to use one injection every 30 days any help is great ,Rob.

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:19 am
by daledale (imported)
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Tue May 08, 2012 8:18 pm I personally think that depo-provera is a hit-or-miss type thing with respect to chemical castration. It basically works indirectly -- technically it is a precursor to both estrogen and testosterone, and it is only through a secondary effect where too much will suppress testosterone. You'd do better to do something that is directly binding to androgen receptors or otherwise directly blocking the effect or the production of testoterone.

Furthermore, the injections of depo-provera cause a lot of variation in actual circulating levels. The half-life of depo in a male is actually quite short (about 50 hours if I remember), meaning that if it all entered the blood stream at once that it would only have half the level within two days! So men need injections really frequently, maybe even weekly, if you really wanted stable levels. The injections are intra-muscular so will seep into the blood at different rates depending on the exact spot of injection. For someone who naturally already isn't producing much testosterone (maybe already somewhat castrate), the half life is much much longer. So if you're taking other anti-androgens at the same time you really have no control over the depo level and effect.

A daily pill of something that blocks testosterone directly is a much more predictable bet.

I have use DP for a good while, 450-600mg biweekly does the job just fine. No desire, no erections no anything

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:58 pm
by experiment (imported)
I know there is a lot of information that has been posted about chemical castation, but it is still a complicted environment. There are many options and opinions on the site. What I would like to ask is from the many experiences of persons here, what would be a simple and not too expensive way of doing a so called test drive of chemical castration intended to lower sex drive including erections. What chemical(s) would be starters and what dosage. How long before any results, and the final point would be where to obtain them in the USA. Thanks.

Re: simple chemical castration regime...

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:11 am
by daledale (imported)
Read the first 2 threads in the "chemical castration and hormones"