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shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:31 am
by knightbird111 (imported)
is it possible to shutdown T production permanently with siterone ?
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:44 am
by _g (imported)
knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Fri May 04, 2012 9:31 am
is it possible to shutdown T production permanently with siterone ?
Yes but you have take it for an extended time period. Depending on your age, genetics it could be as short a period as 6 months or over 2 years or more. Your testicles will atrophy, an after a time they will not regain function.
_g
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 4:46 pm
by knightbird111 (imported)
do the testicles need to be removed once they atrophy completely or can I just leave them there?
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:08 pm
by transward (imported)
You just asked the same questions in
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... post208112 a couple of days ago.
Transward
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 7:35 am
by knightbird111 (imported)
sorry, my mistake
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:49 am
by knightbird111 (imported)
will 25mg of siterone a day for a good 2-4 years likely to shutdown T permanently or is much higher dose is needed?
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:12 pm
by transward (imported)
knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Thu May 10, 2012 10:49 am
will 25mg of siterone a day for a good 2-4 years likely to shutdown T permanently or is much higher dose is needed?
The short answer is no. You seem to have got the idea that taking anti-androgens is a reasonable way to achieve permanent castration. It isn't. First of all, 25 mg of siterone is about 25% of the dose to achieve (temporary) chemical castration. From
12114-Due-to-requests-chemical-castration-protocal-with-optional-levels-of-feminizing on this site: (which I strongly suggest you spend some time studying)
To Lower Testosterone:
50mg 2x Day Androcur (Cyproterone acetate) also known as Cyproterone and Siterone so you would only be taking a quarter of what it would take to suppress T.
Secondly, the permanent shut down of the testes is not the function of the drug. It is a side effect that will affect some small percentage of people who take the drug. The higher the dose and the longer you take it the higher the percentage of people that will have some permanent decrease in T, but it is never certain, no matter how long you take it.. I have a transwoman friend who started taking blockers and estrogen when she was 17 of 18. She is 33 or 34 now, and in a lesbian relationship with a bio woman. They decided to try to have children so she stopped taking blockers and E. Her partner recently had a miscarriage, so apparently, after 16 years sperm and T production are starting up again.
On this site there is a thread devoted to killing the testes with alcohol injections. (
16839-Ethyl-Alcohol-Teste-Injection/page125 ) As of today there are 1,874 posts on the thread. Do you think that many people would go to that much pain and trouble if you could take a pill for a couple of years.to achieve the same result. If you want permanant castration, your options are do something like the alcohol injections, find a Doctor to do it properly, or find an underground cutter to do it. The last is a VERY bad idea, as several people on this site could tell you, (and a number in the grave, who can no longer tell you how bad an idea it is.)
Transward
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:33 pm
by knightbird111 (imported)
alchohol injections.......... any deaths from this?
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:43 pm
by kristoff
None that have been reported here. Highly unlikely.
Re: shutdown T permanently with siterone possible?
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:48 pm
by _g (imported)
If you inject any thing but drinking alcohol [ethyl alcohol (ethanol)]. Yes you could die, depending on how much was injected. Most likely the death would be assumed as a case of drinking bad moonshine. There have been cases of alcohol poisoning for drinking too much alcohol too fast.
_g