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Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:42 am
by nullorchis (imported)
This video illustrates hydrocel repair surgery. Although the testicle was replaced (darn) it gives very clear visual of the tissue complexities of the scrotum and testicle and why one should never attempt to do self surgical castration or let some butcher cutter remove your testicles. A youtube video available to everyone and it should be on line for awhile.
If you have had medical surgery, or cutter surgery, or done it yourself, your comments here might help convince someone to avoid self inflicted castration.
As for myself, I anxiously await medical necessary surgery performed by medical professionals. However I will not let them remove my balls through my scrotum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvmN-ghY ... re=related
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:21 am
by jako9999 (imported)
I could not agree more apart from one thing, some years ago I had a vasectomy and was a wake at the time and watched the Op in the mirror part of the light above me, watching it done I remember feeling that I had got some way towards my castartion I so wanted, it was so wonderfull. I have to say that being asleep this time when they removed them was a slight let down. I know I felt so happy to wake and know they had gone and to touch my empty sack was fantastic but at the same time I so wish I could have seen them being taken out and even if possible held them in my hand that would have been the iceing on the cake so to speak.
What I do know though is even after having it done in hospital I had infections and a clot in my scrotum so who knows how much worse off I could have been in the hands of a cutter and a none sterile environment.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:30 am
by tugon (imported)
Yes it would have been great if we all could find doctors who were willing to castrate us. My desperation was so great that the risk of a cutter seemed small at the time. My castration went better than others who went to surgeons. I do believe we should advise everyone to use a urologist either in the office or a medical center. I was castrated before I had a computer and knew of the EA. I had no infections or clots and only had drainage due to my need to maintain normal routine.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:57 am
by janekane (imported)
Back in 1986, when I had come to the view that my keeping my testicles and colon was equivalent to my attempting to commit suicide by cancer, I had consulted physicians, including one or more each of urologists, psychiatrists, general practitioners, and physicians who specialized in vasectomies, and came to the conclusion that, although I am transgendered, my seeking effective cancer preventive surgeries, including a bilateral orchiectomy, was far more about cancer prevention than anything even remotely sexual except my prospects of losing all of my sexuality as the result of becoming dead from terminal cancer. The week after my orchiectomy, my brother, born three years before i was, got his terminal cancer diagnosis.
In 1986, I had worked for more than twenty years in a major city multi-hospital, multi-university medical center, had taken physiology classes in which I had been taught the ways of proper surgical technique, had worked with animals in medicala research work and had been reasonably trained in the ways of surgery as are appropriate for a bioengineer. Armed with the background I had, I was able to find a doctor whose dad had died in rather direct consequence of prostate cancer, and I was able to convince that doctor that I would do what I thought necessary to prevent cancer if no one else would. I checked with vasectomy clinics because doctors who regularly do vasectomies are very familiar with testicular anatomy, and because such doctors are very good at doing outpatient surgery involving scrotum and testicles without having serious or even significant complications.
Because I sought a doctor who was skilled with vasectomies, I got a "simple" bilateral transcrotal "radical vasectomy," with only local anesthetic, and the doctor was sufficiently skilled that the procedure was painless during the procedure and afterwards. I was at work the next day, without complications or interference with my work. My looking into methods in the medical literature had informed me that the transscrotal route, with only local anesthesia, would be the safest possible method with the fewest possible complications.
When, somewhat later, I decided to go with prostheses so as to not "freak out" men in public swimming pool shower or locker rooms, the prostheses were inserted through the inguinal route because of possibly greater infection risk associated with transscrotal prosthesis insertion. And, when the prostheses apparently led to a serious form of foreign body reaction about a year ago, I returned to the same university hospital where thew prostheses were implanted to get them removed. The urology team decided to remove the prostheses through the "vasectomy scars" as the safest method.
The orchiectomy, the prosthesis insertion, and the prostheses removal were all done using only local anesthesia, and I never had any pain or infection issues or problems.
As for seeing the procedures, standard operating procedure involves sterile draping, such that my seeing the surgical procedures was blocked by the surgical drapes.
Would my life be better now had I not gotten the orcihectomy and colectomy surgeries? My brother died in January of 1972. Yet, there is no way I can imagine being able to test whether my surgeries led to my having a better, or worse, life than I would have had without them, because, once I had them, not having had them had become impossible.
It was my decision, and not the decision of any doctor, that I would seek and obtain what I deemed to be effective cancer risk minimizing surgeries. I needed help from doctors. I cannot imagine anyone doing a total colectomy with ileo-rectal anastomosis as self-surgery.
Was I right about my cancer risk? The only way I would ever have been able to know that for sure was to not get effective cancer-preventive surgeries and, therefore, find myself dying of cancer which, with timely preventive surgeries, would have been prevented. That is the way my older brother went.
I may continue to cry about that for the rest of my life.
When a person experiences a strong enough need, and that need is not properly met by doctors, people will do what is necessary to get such need met. As I did.
Except for prejudice of one form or another, methinks any competent "vasectomy doctor" could properly do orchiectomies if no cancer is present.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 5:15 pm
by Phole (imported)
This was a very interesting video to me as I had a hernia repair many years ago. Part of that repair was for a hydrocele. My operation was inquinal. I always wondered if that meant that to repair the hydrocele they had to push my testicle up and out to get at it. I never really questioned my doctor too much about it. But this video at least answered some of my questions, like what does a hydrocele even look like. That also looked like a pretty good stitching job.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:15 pm
by baldwin92 (imported)
oh my those doctors were not very gentle. I have had hernia surgery on both sides. Both were inquinal and my testicles were very very sore afterwards it wasn't till later that i found as part of the repair they push your testicle out and lay it outside while they repair the hernia, then push it back in. that explained why they hurt worse than the incision.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:39 am
by Matthew 19:12 (imported)
Why not through your scrotum?
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:29 am
by nullorchis (imported)
Why not through your scrotum?
Preference. When they come out I don't want any scars on my scrotum, and I want as much of the connecting cords removed as possible.
Having them removed higher up will enable more connecting cords and tissue to be removed.
There may be a scar left on lower abdomen but body hair will cover that up. No worse than a hernia scar.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:57 am
by tugon (imported)
Without T you might be surprised how little hair you may have.
nullorchis (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:29 am
Preference. When they come out I don't want any scars on my scrotum, and I want as much of the connecting cords removed as possible.
Having them removed higher up will enable more connecting cords and tissue to be removed.
There may be a scar left on lower abdomen but body hair will cover that up. No worse than a hernia scar.
Re: Medical surgery vs self surgery to remove testicle(s)
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:39 am
by jako9999 (imported)
I dont think its quite the Op you think the scars run in line about 4cm up the crease at the top of your leg and are about 10 cm long plus theres one on each side. I am now 7 weeks post Op and I did have infections but there is no way you will ever hide these scars and from my point I dont mind they are just another reminder that they are gone. My brother had testicular cancer 15 years ago and had the one removed and his scar still shown. If you want to see a pic 1 week after and now just message my I am happy to help anyone with any questions I can.
Thanks