Surgery in Thailand

[eunuchseeker (imported)]

Is it still possible to get therapy letters from local Thai Drs.?

[paring (imported)]

Lately I have contacted a few clinic in Thailand for orchiectomy. Only one clinic said they'd do it and they didn't say anything about letter from a shrink, I guess it's a case by case decision, one other said it takes a letter from a psy from your country and 2 letters from Thailand spys. Nick Connor from Samui Clinic has never replied to my letters, this guys before the castration ban in 2008 was doing any kind of male genital mods on request of the wife without asking questions, he was one of the surgeons who wanted to defy the law and perhaps he went to jail. I've also tried to contact Dr. Thep (not a plastician) at Pratunam Polyclinic, he didn't answer my letter yet, I read somewhere on the web that he was charge for doing illegal castration on under age boy, He is the one I believe who was at the source for the castration ban, he was doing castration for only $125. But yes castration is still possible in Thailand, one quotation I have had was at $3500 for castration with scrotum removal done under general anesthetic, while Dr, Arnkoff in Michigan ask $4500 done under local anesthetic, this one may or may not require a letter when I asked him if I needed one he said NO. In India it costs $4500. under general anesthetic without letter.

[Jorge2008 (imported)]

Could you give us further information on the clinic that said they would do it?

[paring (imported)]

search google for Dr. Saran, Thailand. I can't tell if he'd accept to castrate everyboby without letter. I think older is the man, less reluctant the doctors are to accept. As men get older they're more likely to develop prostate problems and the only way to lower the risk is to lower T level. That is probably why Dr, Arnkoff says that, he may or not ask for a letter. I'm 58 y.o. now would he accept to castrate a young man without a letter from a spy?

[tomas.toohey (imported)]

Well the one thing that I do some times wish is that the medical community around the world start hearing us, we don't rent our bodies off them we live our lives and to make us happy we try and make the body the way we see it...

Doctors in Thailand that I have asked only afew years back where able to tell me that they have there own psy that they send you to and if you can pass with them you will get the letter to get Castration/Nullification/Penectomy done.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I don't think that getting a letter from a psych is really a bad thing. By definition, being at odds with your body is a mental disorder. It may be that surgery is best way to fix that, but may also be other issues. For examples, I've found that a lot of gay guys wanting castration actually just haven't come to terms with being gay. I know for me it was sex addiction that was just wearing me out and I wanted to be free of the constant sexual urges and feelings of sexual frustration. Other people are doing it out of a general self-hate. Any of those type of issues are probably better solved at the root cause, which actually isn't the genitals.

My only issue is that straight, voluntary castration isn't well supported by urologists even with a letter from a psych. But honestly, I suggest that anyone desiring castration talk about it with a psych for at least two years before going through with it.

[tomas.toohey (imported)]

I don't think that getting a letter from a psych is really a bad thing. By definition, being at odds with your body is a mental disorder. It may be that surgery is best way to fix that, but may also be other issues. For examples, I've found that a lot of gay guys wanting castration actually just haven't come to terms with being gay. I know for me it was sex addiction that was just wearing me out and I wanted to be free of the constant sexual urges and feelings of sexual frustration. Other people are doing it out of a general self-hate. Any of those type of issues are probably better solved at the root cause, which actually isn't the genitals.

My only issue is that straight, voluntary castration isn't well supported by urologists even with a letter from a psych. But honestly, I suggest that anyone desiring castration talk about it with a psych for at least two years before going through with it.

That's a good point.... Two years is not a long time to wait as people have waited for an opportunity to get this done for a lot longer

[paring (imported)]

Has any psy ever cured a man for his castration fantasy? All the introspection I've done on myself regarding my castration fantasy, over the last 40 years, is just as good as any psy letter. Men don't just wake up one morning with the urges to be castrated. In most cases it something that has stemmed for puberty and grew stronger year after year to reach the point where one day, he comes out and ask to some one, a cutter or a surgeon to castrate him, It's never an easy choice. Whenever a man reaches this point, I'd say, he is ripe to receive it. We don't have to pin point the reason(s) why we want this done, even if we would, this would not eliminate our castration desire. It'd just postpone the day it'll happen. Psy letter would only help the surgeon to have good conscious regarding the deed he'll do and it'd not do any good for the wannabe but discourage him from seeking castration. Cost of orchiectomy is already much too high considering the amount of work that is involve. ($3500 for 1/2 hour work) Now how much time and money would be involve to get a letter from a psy?

[regreen13 (imported)]

Lately I have contacted a few clinic in Thailand for orchiectomy. Only one clinic said they'd do it and they didn't say anything about letter from a shrink, I guess it's a case by case decision, one other said it takes a letter from a psy from your country and 2 letters from Thailand spys. Nick Connor from Samui Clinic has never replied to my letters, this guys before the castration ban in 2008 was doing any kind of male genital mods on request of the wife without asking questions, he was one of the surgeons who wanted to defy the law and perhaps he went to jail. I've also tried to contact Dr. Thep (not a plastician) at Pratunam Polyclinic, he didn't answer my letter yet, I read somewhere on the web that he was charge for doing illegal castration on under age boy, He is the one I believe who was at the source for the castration ban, he was doing castration for only $125. But yes castration is still possible in Thailand, one quotation I have had was at $3500 for castration with scrotum removal done under general anesthetic, while Dr, Arnkoff in Michigan ask $4500 done under local anesthetic, this one may or may not require a letter when I asked him if I needed one he said NO. In India it costs $4500. under general anesthetic without letter.

Dr. Arnkoff charged me $2,000 with no letter required. I understand he is raising his fee to $2,300 in April. Completely satisfied ith the results and his work

[SplitDik (imported)]

Has any psy ever cured a man for his castration fantasy? All the introspection I've done on myself regarding my castration

over the last 40 years

is just as good as any psy letter. Men don't just weak up one morning with the urges to be castrated. In most cases it something that has stemmed for puberty and grew stronger year after year to reach the point where one day, he comes out and ask to some one, a cutter or a surgeon to castrate him, It's never an easy choice. Whenever a man reaches this point, I'd say, he is ripe to receive it. We don't have to pin point the reason(s) why we want this done, even if we would, this would not eliminate our castration desire. It'd just postpone the day it'll happen. Psy letter would only help the surgeon to have good conscious regarding the deed he'll do and it'd not do any good for the wannabe but discourage him from seeking castration. Cost of orchiectomy is already much too high considering the amount of work that is involve. ($3500 for 1/2 hour work) Now how much time and money would be involve to get a letter from a psy?

Actually it cured me. I was an extreme masochist doing extremely bad things to my genitals (many of which have left permanent damage). One day after injecting my testicles with alcohol I decided I better see a psychiatrist. He listened to my story and prescribed an SSRI and it helped me within days. I went from where I would literally start every day by slamming my balls in the door jam, spending a lot of money (over the years I spent a couple million, really) with high-end escorts (I had two on call every day), etc. to where I really couldn't care less or even understand why I would hurt myself. For me my extreme castration fetish was purely a brain chemical imbalance. I was on SSRIs for five years, then weaned off of them, and now I manage pretty well. I still do self harm about once a month, or visit a dominatrix, but compared to where I was at it is night-and-day.

I've also known people who were gay and simply were extremely conflicted about it and had latched onto the idea of becoming non-sexual as a escape. They seem to have been basically cured after fully embracing their gayness and letting go of all the shame and self-loathing that had been drilled into them by others in their life.

So yeah, if you lay awake sweating in the middle of the night thinking about chopping off your genitals, I strongly suggest you try some medication. Similarly if you get sexual release (true fetish) from the idea. For example, if you want your castration to be by a beautiful lady in a sexualized scene, then that is also probably a brain chemical imbalance.

I think there is true eunuch gender identity, for people who simply want to be asexual. But if it is driven by either an obsessive excitement, or driven as a solution to sex addiction or gay identity integration issues, then what you really need is a psychiatrist.