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Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:13 am
by neutrois (imported)
Hi folks,
I'm currently chemically castrated with goserelin implants aka zoladex for two years after ten years on androcur tablets. My testosterone levels test at close to zero. I'm also on estrogen. I've responded really well to being on goserelin so I'm now on the path towards getting a bilateral orchidectomy.
All the articles I found about this said that if I can have painless erections and produce a little clear fluid when I orgasm now then that's likely to stay just the same after the orchidectomy.
Can anyone who has first hand experience of this stuff confirm if that's true? No one went from chemical castration to physical castration and found they became less sexually functional than before?
I wouldn't mind it if I lost the clear fluid but I'd like to still get erections and be able to orgasm as much as I do now. My research found people after castration saying they got the clear fluid I do so I guess that'll probably stay?
The doctors tell me that if anything my testosterone will go up a little from now as my body readjusts to being castrated and it might actually have a really big spike to start with so I should keep taking goserelin for a few months after to avoid dealing with that.
Thanks for any help and advice you can give!
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:16 pm
by Caith721 (imported)
It's been over six months since my orchiectomy, and I can still achieve and maintain an erection when needed/wanted. Orgasms are dry, only a drop or two of clear fluid. The feeling of orgasm is much more diffused, and not nearly so urgent. I very much enjoy it.
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:13 pm
by curious19 (imported)
Caith721 (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:16 pm
It's been over six months since my orchiectomy, and I can still achieve and maintain an erection when needed/wanted. Orgasms are dry, only a drop or two of clear fluid. The feeling of orgasm is much more diffused, and not nearly so urgent. I very much enjoy it.
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Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:29 pm
by neutrois (imported)
Caith721 (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:16 pm
It's been over six months since my orchiectomy, and I can still achieve and maintain an erection when needed/wanted. Orgasms are dry, only a drop or two of clear fluid. The feeling of orgasm is much more diffused, and not nearly so urgent. I very much enjoy it.
Thanks! That sounds very much like my current experience. It's reassuring to see someone else say the same thing I read in my research.
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:58 am
by Caith721 (imported)
I'm very keen to remind everyone else, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary) and this is my personal experience. Nobody else can be guaranteed or reasonably expect the same condition. Don't ever go in saying "oh yeah, it'll still work just fine" before you get castrated. Nobody knows and nobody can promise you what will or will not happen. I still keep waiting to see a change, which is why I mention it's been six months. If that's not a long enough time, I may find out differently in the future.
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:48 pm
by neutrois (imported)
Caith721 (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:58 am
I'm very keen to remind everyone else, YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary) and this is my personal experience. Nobody else can be guaranteed or reasonably expect the same condition. Don't ever go in saying "oh yeah, it'll still work just fine" before you get castrated. Nobody knows and nobody can promise you what will or will not happen. I still keep waiting to see a change, which is why I mention it's been six months. If that's not a long enough time, I may find out differently in the future.
Of course and it may well take longer than that for the endocrine system to settle down, but even hearing a second person who's had an orchidectomy say it's *possible* to get the drips of clear fluid without testicles is reassuring given the misinformation from some doctors.
My gender specialist seems to think I couldn't possibly be getting erections on androcur or goserelin because of low T and if I did they'd hurt. But I'm getting erections just fine after 13 years on anti-androgens and testing at near 0 T. I'm guessing this is because estrogen is a sex hormone too? It makes me think that maybe most trans women lie to their doctors! Or at least don't confess to still getting them.
Thanks again!
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:00 pm
by Wolf-Pup (imported)
I don't understand something. If you're system has been shut down for years, and you aren't producing any T now, why would the adrenal glands suddenly spring to life after the physical castration?
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:20 am
by smoothie36 (imported)
I have always had a clear fluid as far back as I can remember before and after castration, so everyone is different. Don't expect specific results.
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:35 am
by Riven (imported)
Wolf-Pup (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:00 pm
I don't understand something. If you're system has been shut down for years, and you aren't producing any T now, why would the adrenal glands suddenly spring to life after the physical castration?
The drugs are currently suppressing all testosterone made by the testes and the adrenal glands. If he is physically castrated and stops taking the drugs the adrenal glands might start producing a little testosterone again. An endocrinologist might be able to tell you how likely that would be. But I wouldn't suggest anyone enter into castration (physical or chemical) unless they are prepared to sacrifice their sexual function.
Re: Surgical castration different to chemical castration?
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:25 pm
by gandalf (imported)
I have been castrated for six and half years. I have difficulty maintaining an erection unless I use full doses of TRT for about 4 days. I can have orgasm without an erection and it is clear. I wish I did not have the ejaculation but I think the only way to achieve that is to have the prostate removed.