Okay GUYS, question for for the men of EA.

What do the men here (str8, gay, bi, tg, eu) think about us women who go, "I'm soooo attracted to you and your desire to modify your body like this."

Now the reason I'm asking is this.

IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY! lol

I had a talk with a friend tonight before I signed on. I told her about this site and then we got on the net and started telling a bi-curious male friend about the site.

They both went postal when they looked at it and started yelling at me about how insane it was that I, a str8 female, non-dominant, could somehow have an attraction to a man who, as they put it, "could do absolutely nothing for me."

That's when I told them they were wrong and that, well, it's a fantasy. What purpose it serves, I've not really a concrete answer. Maybe it's because the idea of a castrated male doesn't feel threatening. Maybe it should, and is, and the fear is what's alluring. (I mean, c'mon, some of those stories send chills up my spine.)

All in all I just wanted the men's opinions of the women on this board or other wise who find this type of body modification to be a huge turn on. Honest and open answers most welcomed. If you think i'm psycho, just say it...I can....(sniffles) deal with the harsh (blows nose) critism.

Oh...be gentle with me.

p.s.: I'd love to hear from any married men (st8 or gay)

And as always, if i'm missing the concept here, this young grasshopper doesn't mind being set on the right path.

PB: "We are all the only one of a kind here"

Allison: "Many of our problems are created when we are forced to be something that we are not."

Riverwind: "...you will find that you do fit in here."

Paolo: "Welcome to the zoo."

madscientist: "Welcome to the jungle..."

A-1: "THERE IS NOT A DAMNED THING WRONG WITH YOUR FEELINGS" !

Hey, lady, what else is it you want to hear ?

My oppinion:

Male and femal have different genitals.

And that's it.

Everything else is speculation or at best statistics!

What do YOU care about what MEN say about you as a WOMAN?

Well, now that I write it down, I see there may be a point or two to that... *G

Ok then, what I* think about your desire?

I think your psycho.

JUST A JOKE! *S

No in fact, I'm very reliefed.

...:

I am just as confused as you or others with that desire.

Boys are considered just as insane as girls if it comes to THAT point, you know that?

There is NO problem with girls who feel similar, there would be a problem if there WEREN'T any!

And there ARE in fact very few; few who dare telling at least... *g

(One reason for this might be: You should expect getting a lot of emails if you go on like this. Don't let that bother you. :tongueout )

So: Little me and others appreciate more girls participating here very much. WHAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM?

C'mon, lady, it WAS the right bar. And if you come out at daybreak there are still more of us waiting at the station, takin the bus and going to work, meeting again later in the park to have a nice cup of tea.

You can come too.

*S

as always

gus

peter4u (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:25 pm What do the men here (str8, gay, bi, tg, eu) think about us women who go, "I'm soooo attracted to you and your desire to modify your body like this." ... That's when I told them they were wrong and that, well, it's a fantasy. ... All in all I just wanted the men's opinions of the women on this board or other wise who find this type of body modification to be a huge turn on. ...

Oh...be gentle with me. Hi Neoscrow

I am a straight married male who has always had a dislike for my genitals, and have frequently felt that I should have been a female. I have not openly expressed my feelings to my wife as she would not understand.

I appreciate the honest opinions of both women and men on this site. However, as you said, much of it is fantasy and we must realize the difference. I look forward to hearing the honest opinions of women like you and Allison.

Please continue to share your feelings with us. You may also email me if you like. (just reference "EA Message Board" in the subject so that I do not delete your message)

peter4u (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:25 pm They both went postal when they looked at it and started yelling at me about how insane it was that I, a str8 female, non-dominant, could somehow have an attraction to a man who, as they put it, "could do absolutely nothing for me."

You might inform them that eunuchs could do quite a lot for them (and you). If it is sex they want, they would find that many eunuchs reatain some sexual ability, even if at a reducced level. Eunuchs will be slower to arouse, and need longer time to climax, but as such can spend more time on foreplay and afterglow. Eunuchs who are impotent can nonetheless use fingers and tongue. They would find, as many females have, that eunuchs tend to have lower levels of male aggressiveness, and as such can make wondeful companions for a long-term relationship. Not wanting sex ALL the time, they can spend more time on building a relationship.

peter4u (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:25 pm They both went postal when they looked at it and started yelling at me about how insane it was that I, a str8 female, non-dominant, could somehow have an attraction to a man who, as they put it, "could do absolutely nothing for me."

Neoscrow are you sure?

Through out history eunuchs were sot out by rich females because there was no threat; their husbands did not mind and welcomed the union. True most were at that time slaves and were cut without there permission. Today’s modern eunuch is not much different.

Let me ask you a question, how would you like to spend a night with a eunuch, that spent the time to satisfy your needs not his, who with hands and tongue takes you to that special place over and over and if he is also able to get an erection so much the better for you.

On the other hand you could go with that guy the hits his climax leaving you not quite there, then says wasn’t that great rolls over and goes to sleep. I am sure you have experienced that more than once.

Riverwind the Happy Eunuch

To everyone here:

I've associated myself with one e-group or another in the past 10 years since I've been on the net. And, I must say that NEVER have I felt such warmth, openess and true togetherness as I've felt here.

I thank you all for being so kind (and gentle) as my child-like curiosity has gotten the best of me. I'm sure I'm not the first, nor the last.

As we move into the new millennium, I hope that the awareness of this lifestyle spreads in a positive light. Grant it, America will be about 300 years behind the world in accepting this, but it's a start.

My opinion as a female toward the matter is...kudos, guys. (chuckle) And, in my heart of hearts, I believe that if more women knew of such a culture, more would flock to it. It's not a matter of dominance/sexual superiority, but a matter of emotional stability, if you will, and security.

I've not been on this board long, but I don't think my feelings are premature. I find this life-choice as commendable, and I'm sure other women (and perhaps men) would too.

Thanks for your responses. You make me proud to be a part of the group. (finally a site with civilized men. whoda thunk? - okay, well SOME of you :tongueout )

For me it is an intimacy thing:) To be hurt, controlled and FORCEFULLY changed (with a swift slice of a knife or whatever method is used). And to be molded into something that suits a certain individual Woman and to watch that Woman grow in beauty every day because She has a (......pet) who WAS strong and powerful but now breathes only to nourish and satisfy HER soul is something that would be the highest form of an intimate relationship that I could ever think of.

LonePanther88 (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2002 3:06 am For me it is an intimacy thing:) To be hurt, controlled and FORCEFULLY changed (with a swift slice of a knife or whatever method is used). And to be molded into something that suits a certain individual Woman and to watch that Woman grow in beauty every day because She has a (......pet) who WAS strong and powerful but now breathes only to nourish and satisfy HER soul is something that would be the highest form of an intimate relationship that I could ever think of.

Hi LonePanther88 -

I know I can't speak for the rest of the women out there but...

I find great strength AND power in a man who says "I don't need this dangling between my thighs to still be a man." I'm a hopeless romantic. (shrugs) Just think if a man who is no where near interested in being a eunuch (or even is repulsed by it) and becomes one himself by accident, ill health, whatever. It is THAT type of man who would be lost the rest of his days, fearing what women would think, feeling inferior to other men. See, that's a weakness to me. Men who treasure and glorify their equipment and lose it unwillingly are the ones who crumble.

A willing eunuch, however - well now I see why women of ancient times sought them and desired to be in the company of them all the time. A eunuch is the embodiment of freedom from fleshly desire. Very spiritual, actually. As a woman, I think I've more control over my urges than a typical man, but yet I have them and eventually am forced to give in to them. It's called being in heat. And I'm not being vulgar or funny, but any woman will tell you that when she's ovulating, she needs something horrible. Hell that egg wants to be fertilized, dammit! (chuckle) And we as humans have to constantly fight what is so absolutely natural, or give in. Sad enough, neither option is all that great when you consider the emotional strains it my induce. Eunuchs are free of that, free to focus on more important things and not on the urges of their body. I think I'm beginning to understand.

Would I myself become a female nullo? Hm. More than likely not because I have this insane desire suddenly (as with most girls my age) to procreate. Dammit all. I just turned 29 yesterday and the urge to have children is taking over like a Nevada wild fire. It's on my mind constantly but it depresses me because I treasure stability and with the way men are just flinging seed around and leaving the scene these days, I just don't want to bring my children into this world taking that risk. (and marriage means jack today, ya know?) Once my career takes off in a year or two (Sigh) I might just have invetro and raise a family on my own. If the Great Mother wills it, it will be. Until then, in a way, I feel nullified because of my fear of abandoment - not of me, but of the children that might result in the relationship. Go figure.

If I've strayed here, someone please correct me.

Neoscrow,

We are a very diverse group here at the EA, but many of us share the vision outlined in your posts (and also that of LonePanther). A new subculture is evolving and a growing number of men are expressing an interest in becoming a woman’s eunuch partner. To the uninitiated it sounds rather shocking, but in terms of domestic stability, it makes perfect sense.

You said earlier,

"

peter4u (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2002 5:55 am Men who treasure and glorify their equipment and lose it unwillingly are the ones who crumble.

"

Actually, we have been running a poll (began June 1), several men who were castrated for medical reasons (having no prior fetish or interest) found the changes it made in their lives better than expected. The poll is for men, but if you are curious you can see it at:

http://eunuchsurvey.dashdotdash.net/

Preliminary results are posted on my website (just follow the blue links):

http://www.geocities.com/gfarrells/

The results are going to be analyzed by medical professionals and, hopefully published in a scientific journal. It is my hope that this will be a small step toward legitimizing the voluntary eunuch who is not a transsexual. Male castration is less invasive than a tooth extraction and the only reason it is difficult to obtain, legally, is the social stigma associated with it.

I don’t think castration is right for all men, and similarly, I don’t feel all women are psychologically predisposed to accepting a eunuch partner. However, if both partners find themselves drawn to this lifestyle I think they may enjoy levels of intimacy and sensuality unobtainable in a conventional relationship.

Farrell

I am curious about the name you are using...how did you choose it?

Oh well, none of my business...your response is not required.

Getting on with it,...You say that:

peter4u (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:25 pm They both went postal when they looked at it and started yelling at me about how insane it was that I, a str8 female, non-dominant, could somehow have an attraction to a man who, as they put it, "could do absolutely nothing for me."

Well, as I see it you have chills going up and down your back...that's something...and you have yet to be to be touched physically. I think that erotically speaking you have probably overloaded your circuits already...correct me if I am wrong.

It is your friends who have the problem. They hold sex in too high of an esteem. You are not like THEM. You do not. You do not because you are 29, still unattached and you are putting your career first. That, most assuredly, is putting sex on the old back burner.

Next:

peter4u (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:25 pm Maybe it's because the idea of a castrated male doesn't feel threatening.

Not only that but I read that sex is something that you consider as a de-stablizing influence in a realtionship. Not the sex between the partners, mind you, but the individual sexuality of each partner. I feel that this is a valid concern.

The "threat" that you feel is the threat of losing in a relationship because your partner becomes sexually attracted to someone else. Hence, your statement about marriage.

FINALLY, (Take heart, old big mouth is almost done wagging his tongue at you :tongueout

peter4u (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2002 7:25 pm )

All in all I just wanted the men's opinions of the women on this board or other wise who find this type of body modification to be a huge turn on.

p.s.: I'd love to hear from any married men (st8 or gay)

I think that you are a HUGE turn on...but maybe only because you have this as a fantasy...I don't know.

At any rate, don't be too concerned with the controlling efforts of your friends.

"Insane" is an action...not a thought or a fantasy.

Until you hook up with a Eunuch expecting to have children with him you are most decidedly NOT insane...at least not yet.

Maybe you are dominant but have never had the opportunity.

Now you have heard from the old "straight" man. Married for longer than you are old...no...I'm not a eunuch yet, but I am becoming addicted to the effect that the thoughts of men as eunuchs has on women.

A-1