Hi

I experience a great loss of energy since a couple of weeks. As a consequence of low T level, I knew it would happen. I wonder how long it lasts or if it's permanent. I battled a lot to lower that T level, and I don't want to take T replacement. The only other solution would be estrogen... ?

I searched the forums but didn't find the answer.

So if you can help, that would be appreciated.

Hi

Pirlouit (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:40 am I experience a great loss of energy since a couple of weeks. As a consequence of low T level, I knew it would happen. I wonder how long it lasts or if it's permanent. I battled a lot to lower that T level, and I don't want to take T replacement. The only other solution would be estrogen... ?

I searched the forums but didn't find the answer.

So if you can help, that would be appreciated.

I take Estrin (0.325 estrogen) not for energy since I've always had plenty of that but for osteopenia. It's the dosage recommended for post-menopause so I think that it's probably a pretty good standard. It's a lot cheaper and much easier to get a hold of since you can bypass going to the physician. If you don't already have any breast growth then you may get some. I've had mine since my teens and it's never been too noticeable since I have wide shoulders and very little inheritence (so to speak), just sensitive is all.

There are two things to watch for in having low-T.

The first is in relation to the chicken-and-the-egg question of Type-2 diabetes vs. low-T.

Get yourself to the nearest discount mart store and pick up a cheap meter such as a Reli-On or a Sidekick. Read the directions and test your blood sugar to see if it is high, which can cause fatigue. A morning reading should not be over 102. A reading 2 hours after a meal should not be over 140.

The other thing to check in relation to loss of energy is B-complex vitamins. Get yourself at least a 500% dose and take 1 each morning. For me, this helps enormously.

Thanks for your answers.

I've been tested for diabete not long ago, and everything was ok.

I will give a look at B-vitamins. Hope it will be helpful for me too.

For me, it took almost a year to experience a noticeable decrease in energy, but in the end it happened. Since I also didn´t want to use T replacement, I tried estrogen (estradiol valerate 2mg/day), and it worked really well. Later, I added a low dose of nandrolone decanoate, which has good anabolic properties and low androgenetic effects. But substituting vitamines is always better to start with, since hormones always can have serious side effects...

When my T level dropped down around 50 ng/dl I can't honestly say I noticed a drop in energy. Prior to starting Androcur I was taking 2mg of premarin a day for almost a year. I also started a diet and exercise regime at the same. Besides having turned into a fat blob and hated myself for it, exercise I read here, was also highly recommended. Mentally I was totally up and the depression was lessening. My interest in doing some things dropped, but that I reasoned was primarily due to other issues. I have become weaker. I was never muscled, just wiry, now a lot less wiry after 18 months of very low T levels later