anyway to control or stop the weight gain or more important for me my breast development. I'm 27 and will never have testosterone levels of a man ever again after being castrated and i've gained 12 pounds over the last 4 months and i've had some major breast development. I couldn't imagine i'd end up with a chest of a female

I guess I studied way too much biology. I expected to become somewhat curvy after my orchiectomy, and have not been disappointed.

I might guess that some women could envy me.

Especially because it is perfectly legal in Wisconsin for me to go topless!

Two things down there went away. Two things higher up came along.

For many years, I had three jigglers.

Then there was only one.

There are three, again.

Life happens.

janekane (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:45 pm I guess I studied way too much biology. I expected to become somewhat curvy after my orchiectomy, and have not been disappointed.

I might guess that some women could envy me.

Especially because it is perfectly legal in Wisconsin for me to go topless!

Two things down there went away. Two things higher up came along.

For many years, I had three jigglers.

Then there was only one.

There are three, again.

Life happens.

As a male it might be legal for you to go topless with a female chest. However, how do you feel about it and how do others react to your breasts?

Mac (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:53 pm As a male it might be legal for you to go topless with a female chest. However, how do you feel about it and how do others react to your breasts?

How do I feel about it? I feel alive.

My best guess, back in 1986, was that testosterone, given my family cancer history, would long ago have spared me the inconvenience (or convenience?) of being alive now.

The way in which I am autistic makes it nearly impossible for me to be ashamed, though I sometimes do experience the affective state (emotion?) of shame very intensely though only very briefly.

I find that every person is actually unique, and so I find that am neither more nor less "normal" than anyone else is.

I have gotten only one reaction from another person that I noticed, and that person, a woman, remarked that I was better "built" than she was. She, however, indicated that she was entirely satisfied with her shape and saw no reason for me to be any less satisfied with mine.

Perhaps more noticeable than my mammae or "radical vasectomy" scars is the stripe down my front, starting just below my sternum and stopping just short of a penectomy, which stripe is the scar from the colectomy and duodenal polypectomy surgeries.

I figure that my figure is okay as long as I am alive. As for what I would figure about my figure were I not alive, perhaps I could suggest, "Go, figure."

I may have quoted John Kendrick Bangs before...

The Little Elf

I met a little Elf-man, once,

Down where the lilies blow.

I asked him why he was so small

And why he didn’t grow.

He slightly frowned, and with his eye

He looked me through and through.

“I ’m quite as big for me,” said he,

“As you are big for you.”

Perhaps I can put it this way:

"I'm quite as normal for me, says janekane, as you are normal for you."

It is harder to swim underwater than it was before the orchiectomy. It is easier to swim on the surface. More buoyancy.

Except for that one woman, no one has said anything and no one has acted as though I am really all that peculiar.

Oh, forgot.

"Breasts" (or human mammary glands) are not sex organs, they are modified sweat glands.

janekane (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:23 pm Oh, forgot.

"Breasts" (or human mammary glands) are not sex organs, they are modified sweat glands.

Have you ever been told to cover them?

cast1988, are you on TRT or taking tamoxifen? How is your diet and exercise?

Man, why cant I get breasts. Its been way more than 4 months and all I got is one sore nipple.

Mac (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:44 pm Have you ever been told to cover them?

No.

Perhaps I really have studied biology too much... If that were actually possible.

And, yes, I do care about how other people are affected by my life. That is why, having chosen to not complete SRS after being on female hormones for a couple years, I got the implants (testicular prostheses) that my body began reacting to in April and led to the implant removal surgery in early June, just before I decided to "look into" the Eunuch Archive and joined. I have found it physically helpful to do some swimming, and the local YMCA has the most reasonably available swimming pool.

However, for that which poses a threat to my well-being, I seek effective medical care. No one who has seriously considered my family cancer history has seriously questioned the wisdom of my getting the orchiectomy as a way of reducing my cancer risk.

Given that, I choose to carry on my life in a way that respects my life and the lives of others.

I neither wanted to become curvy nor wanted to avoid becoming curvy, and there are men with the usual things (testicles and normal testosterone levels) who have far more breast development (or gynecomastia) than I have.

Were it up to me, I would have every person being treated with respect as the person each and every person is, and that includes people who have any and every BIID variation that can ever exist.

Stigma and prejudice can be very hurtful, and I seek to avoid stigma and prejudice for myself as for everyone else.

I have known men who were treated for prostate cancer with bilateral orchiectomy and who were ashamed and too embarrassed to go swimming in a public pool. That, I find quite tragic, and I do what I would do much as I would, to the extent physically possible, were I not carrying one of the FAP gene variations.

Perhaps my autistic sense of humor went a little awry, if so, I apologize. I am not an exhibitionist nor am I voyeuristic. However, wearing a swimming suit that covers my "bust" would really activate strange responses, were I to wear a woman's swimming suit while heading for the men's shower.

There just is no practical solution to living decently that I have ever found other than being an authentic, valid person who makes a strong effort to avoid hurting other people while being as helpful to others as is decently attainable.

However, my decades long study of biology keeps informing me that biological diversity is what makes life possible, and the human social tradition of denying and/or stigmatizing the diversity of actual people may prod some people toward despair. I find that truly a sadness and a sorrow.

Heya,

What were you doing or not doing that caused you to gain all that weight over four months?

During my 6 month experiment going totally hormone-free, I gained a bit more than 10 lbs. No breast development, though I did notice that I lost strength and some muscle mass, particularly around my shoulders and chest. The real issue was having the energy to make it through some serious weight-bearing exercise and to handle oxygen well. Every time I'd ride my bike to work or try to sprint, I would quickly get winded.

That was why I went on T to some extent.

Heya,

graylayer02 (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 28, 2011 4:00 am During my 6 month experiment going totally hormone-free, I gained a bit more than 10 lbs. No breast development I would quickly get winded.

That was why I went on T to some extent.

That's been my experience. I always have to watch my diet and exercise or I start gaining weight quickly. I take tamoxifen to ward off the breast development that started to manifest itself. I get winded while bike riding or working out. Does TRT revers all these symptoms?