Does anyone think it will be possible to get a safe, legal, hassle free Castration in the UK anytime in the near future? I have contacted my GPs on several different occasions and they will not take my request seriously, just try referring me for counselling. Why can't a man make a decision to get castrated, just like a woman can request a hysterectomy?

In societies in which aggression is deemed essential for the survival of the society, anything which reduces the overall capacity for aggression may be deemed threatening to the survival of the society.

There is a paper which touches upon this theme in the April 2011, "Current Directions in Psychological Science," titled "Precarious Manhood and Its Links to Action and Aggression," by Jennifer K. Bosson and Joseph A. Vandello, the abstract for which can be found on www(dot)psychologicalscience(dot)org and the journal itself in some libraries. The abstract starts out mentioning womanhood not being precarious like manhood...

I have never had the slightest interest in acquiring and/or having "precarious manhood" and the violence (rape, war, incest, brutal business and sports competition, and such) which I find rather consistently and tragically accompanies it.

Women are not completely immune to competition and what drives it, so a significant aspect of the social contrast between manhood and womanhood may be social-environmental, with a noteworthy genetic/biological aspect wisely not ignored.

Is it possible to maintain wars without having people who learn to disrespect (hate?) themselves enough to project their (acquired?) self-hate on supposed enemies?

For myself, as I cannot really learn to hate myself, I cannot really learn to hate anyone else.

amm_uk (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:11 pm Does anyone think it will be possible to get a safe, legal, hassle free Castration in the UK anytime in the near future?

It may seem painfully slow, but change is coming.

The next edition of the Standards of Care of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (the Harry Benjamin Standards) will be released at a conference in Atlanta on September 25th. Both Kristoff and I will be in the audience (and maybe some of the other members here will be as well). From what I have gathered so far, Male-to-Eunuch will be clearly included, and BIID implied. You can expect an update here on the Archive soon after, though both Kristoff and I will be making presentations in a session beginning at 8:00 the following morning, so we probably won’t be writing anything for a day or so.

The next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (the DSM-5), the bible of the psychiatric profession, is now in draft form. Male-to-Eunuch is clearly provided for, though they haven’t yet decided on BIID, which is likely to be included only in a “research appendix” to the volume.

These two documents should open the doors for proper medical treatment for those wishing castration for valid reasons, both MtE and BIID.

Surgery will require a letter from a proper professionally-licensed counselor, but the counselors should be far more willing to provide the necessary letters once the guidebooks indicate that it is a valid diagnosis. Right now, they don’t want to go out on a limb without any support.

Anti-androgens (Depo Provera, Androcur, Lupron, etc.) should become far easier to obtain through a physician who will monitor their effect (and they may eventually even be covered by some medical insurance).

I can provide some of the discussion documents to anyone who sends me a Private Message with an email address that will accept PDF attachments.

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well i ive in the uk and yes it is a very long and slow road your doc will send you for councilling and no doubt that will be with a psychiatrist and if he thinks that you are genuine and truly do want to be castrated he or she will start you on a course of chemical castration for me that was cyproterone depending where in the uk you live here are also some other places that ou can go to where do you live in the uk i am in glasgow and can only talk about what there is here

Hi Amm_UK!

I really share your frustration - I had a similar experience talking with my doctor many years ago. It feels bad to be told you should go for counselling, as though your feelings or desires are in some way invalid. The couple of times I raised this with my GP I always walked away thinking: "I'm not crazy, goddamit!".

I've heard similar stories to what chemcast_scot describes, where some people have had success discussing it with their doctors (though I get the impression these are very few and far between) but I definitely recommend giving it a try. I think the response will vary a lot simply because there are no guidelines for doctors to follow. Ultimately, an uninformed practitioner will not be able to deliver the kind of care you need, which is why the work by Jesus et al. are cannot be overstated!

I can definitely see a time when anyone can request castration and be taken seriously by every doctor, I just can't guess when this will be!

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