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Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:52 pm
by JesusA (imported)
Shedding our penis spines helped us become human, DNA study hints

Genetic comparison with chimps suggests that losing chunks of DNA – including one associated with penis spines and facial whiskers – played a crucial role in making us human

Ian Sample, science correspondent

guardian.co.uk,

Wednesday 9 March 2011

Scientists have identified a clutch of subtle genetic changes that have shaped our minds and bodies into the unique form that sets humans apart from chimpanzees and the rest of the animal kingdom.

The work by researchers in the US represents a landmark in a search that has occupied philosophers and scientists for millennia and one that goes to the heart of understanding what it means to be human.

The findings offer up the humbling conclusion that the secret of human success may owe more to what we lost along the path of evolution, rather than anything we gained.

When the human genome was first deciphered more than a decade ago, some scientists expected to find extra genes that explained why humans had an intellectual edge over their closest living relatives and other species. But since diverging from chimpanzees around seven million years ago, it turns out that our human ancestors lost several hundred snippets of DNA, which together led to traits that are uniquely human, the researchers claim.

In ditching these chunks of DNA, our ancient ancestors lost facial whiskers and short, tactile spines on their penises. The latter development is thought to have paved the way for more intimate sex and monogamous relationships. The loss of other DNA may have been crucial in allowing humans to grow larger brains.

Intriguingly, hardly any of the lost DNA was from genes, which make the proteins that are the building blocks of life. Instead, the missing DNA came from areas of the genome that regulate where and when certain genes are active.

"Like someone looking for their keys under a lamp post, the genes were the easiest place to look for differences between humans and chimpanzees, and in many respects those have been studied pretty well," said Philip Reno, a co-author on the study at Penn State University.

"But there is a larger unknown in the form of these other regions of DNA, and in those we are only just beginning to find ways to pull out the differences between humans and chimpanzees."

In the years since the human genome project was completed it has become clear that humans and chimps share around 96% of their DNA. Of the three billion pairs of "letters" that make up the human genetic code, genes account for less than 2%.

The US team compared the complete human genome with sequences from the chimp, macaque and mouse. They found that humans lack 510 short sections of DNA that are present in the other animals. Intriguingly, only one missing piece of DNA affected a human gene directly. The vast majority of lost DNA disrupted parts of the genome that control how genes are expressed.

One missing section of DNA was found to block a gene that, in other animals, stifles the growth of brain cells. Losing that DNA may have been a pivotal moment in human development, as it allowed parts of the human brain to expand into the most complex organ known.

Writing in the journal Nature, the researchers describe how our ancestors lost another piece of DNA that gives rise to both facial whiskers and sensitive spines on the tip of the penis, both of which are found in chimpanzees and other non-human primates.

Penile spines – which make the penis more sensitive and speed ejaculation – are more common in animals that face intense competition for mates, and where females are likely to mate with many males in rapid succession.

The loss of penile spines may have allowed our ancient ancestors to copulate for longer, a development thought to have nurtured monogamous couples and paved the way for more complex social structures.

When the scientists checked their genetic discoveries against the Neanderthal genome, they found the same chunks of DNA were missing, meaning the DNA was lost more than 800,000 years ago, which is when our human ancestors split from the Neanderthal lineage.

The scientists are still working out what many of the lost sections of DNA do, but expect to find more evidence of how humans differ genetically from chimpanzees.

"There are going to be many different features that make humans unique and I don't think we're close to describing all the links between genes that make us different from chimpanzees," said Reno. "We are just getting the initial picture."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/ ... ics-chimps?

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Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:04 pm
by Sweetpickle (imported)
Penis dentata

:dong: :dong: :dong:

Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:51 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Thanks for the report, it was very interesting.

River

Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:10 pm
by Kortpeel (imported)
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JesusA (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:52 pm Shedding our penis spines helped us become human, DNA study hints

In ditching these chunks of DNA, our ancient ancestors lost facial whiskers and short, tactile spines on their penises. The latter development is thought to have paved the way for more intimate sex and monogamous relationships. The loss of other DNA may have been crucial in allowing humans to grow larger brains.

The loss of penile spines may have allowed our ancient ancestors to copulate for longer, a development thought to have nurtured monogamous couples and paved the way for more complex social structures.



Seems to me that losing the penile spines was a pity. We could have had penile spine removal ceremonies on getting engaged or long enjoyable debates about whether it was better to remove them or leave them. If removed should it be done at birth or when the boy was old enough to decide for himself?

Or maybe the spines were thorny and caused damage to boys' hands. Their hands became so sore that the boys were unable to fight off the sabre toothed tigers and so those with spiny pricks died out. Remember, protective gloves hadn't been invented in those days.

One experiment to be conducted in about 20 years time would be to reinsert the spiny prick DNA and then get some first hand knowledge of what it means to have a spiny prick. Or perhaps it would be easier to insert speech DNA into some cats and then they could tell us about spiny pricks.

Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:27 am
by SplitDik (imported)
Actually some men have them, a condition called pearly penile papules.

Check out this photo of the condition: (NSFW) http://www.penis-website.com/images/pearly2.jpg

Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:17 pm
by kb57z (imported)
You might like to visit

http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2011/03 ... man-m.html

which jumps off from the penile spines to another point of difference between humans and other primates, namely that humans lack a baculum, and proceeds to speculate that the Biblical story of the creation of Eve from Adam's rib has been mistranslated.

Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:35 pm
by JesusA (imported)
Here’s the text of the article that kb57z references:

Science: Human males not horny

By Matt Young

Panda’s Thumb

March 9, 2011

Most mammals (the males, anyway) have a baculum, or penis bone. Human males, however, do not. Inasmuch as men and women have the same number of ribs, some people have suggested that the human baculum had to be sacrificed in order to make Eve (see here for a survey). For my part, I think it is just as well to have an upright posture and no baculum.

Now comes a report in Science to the effect that the penises of most male mammals are covered with spines of keratin, the substance of which horns are composed. Owing to a gene deletion, however, male humans lack these spines and therefore are not horny.

Additionally, we see that the human penis not only has no backbone, but also no spine.

Comment #3:

Now if human males still had a baculum the most masochistic of us could use distraction osteogenesis to lengthen our, errr, baculums. The process of lengthening long bones requires a corticotomy (sectioning the bone into two pieces) and using a device that has two circular pieces that implant into each section of bone with titanium pins. Each day a screw is turned counter-clockwise and it separates the two sections by 1mm. This process is repeated until the bone reaches the desired length. It would give the phrase, “getting screwed” a whole new meaning.

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Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:59 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
I can see it now, everybody would be walking around hung like John Holmes.

River

Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:03 am
by Kortpeel (imported)
JesusA (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:35 pm Most mammals (the males, anyway) have a baculum, or penis bone. Human males, however, do not.

INTELLIGENT DESIGN?

Imagine the scene in the great design office in the sky.

Cyril, designer of genes and chromosones for the homo sapiens project has made a breakthrough. “It’s gonna work.” Quivering with excitement he checks his work for flaws and finds nothing wrong. His design for a twelve inch baculum is perfect.

“They’ll love me for this,” he thinks. “Suppose I’d better tell the girls so they can accommodate it.” Cyril isn’t very keen on the female design department. He can’t see why the Boss is so insistent on two genders. Unisex works fine for bacteria and look how successful they are. But orders are orders. “Hello Doris.”

“Not you again, Cyril. What is it this time?”

“Just to let you know I’ve created a twelve inch baculum for homo sapiens. You need to be able to accommodate it in your design.”

“Don’t bother. We’re busy on a system of parthenogenesis. We don’t need you guys at all.”

“Huh! We’ll see about that.” Cyril hangs up.

Cyril and Doris are on the carpet before the big Boss. “This stupid bickering has to stop. My orders are clear. There are going to be two sexes and you each need each other. You will work together.”

“Yes sir,” they both say. Doris adds “But sir, he’s come up with a twelve inch baculum and it’s going to mess up our vagina design.”

“That’s enough. Back to your work Doris. Cyril, I need to have a word with you.”

Cyril is alone with the Boss. “Cyril there has been a breakthrough in another area. No baculum at all I’m afraid.”

Cyril is shocked to the core. He loves his baculum design. The Boss understands and brings his infinite mercy to bear. “Sorry Cyril but homo sapiens doesn’t need a baculum.”

“But-“

“See what you can do with hydraulics. Make it so it only works when needed. It is better that they don’t walk around with permanent built in erections, don’t you think?”

What Cyril thinks doesn’t matter. “Yes Sir.” Sadly Cyril turns to leave the Presence. He stops. “May I ask a question?”

“Sure what?”

“How come they won’t need a baculum?”

The Boss smiles his infinite love. “We’re going to give them hands instead. More flexible and more fun for them.”

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Re: Penis spines & human evolution

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:00 am
by Riverwind (imported)
Wonderful and don't forget the tongue.

River