StefanIsMe (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:45 pm I think, for me, anyway, the Aristotlean quote applies. While I have a few reasons for interest in the subject of this archive, at least one of them is the preservation not so much of 'beauty', although that's part of it, but the preservation of childhood.

I've stated elsewhere here that I suppose I am quite weird in that I had serious desires for this at a very young age, 9 or 10. I seriously did NOT want to grow up. I didn't make the connection at the time, but I was quite open (to my Mom, at least) about my facination with Peter Pan; I wanted a costume so bad for halloween that year, but I didn't go as him because no costume was good enough, in my eye; it had to look exactly like the Disney style (green tights, little leather/fabric 'shoes', and proper tunic).

I thought big kids were gross. Period. And being small for my age, I could already pretend to be younger than I was. The only time this irritated me was when I couldn't get into the arcade downtown because nobody believed I was 12 until I was well over that :p. A drivers licence was the one adulthood 'perk' I was interested in.

Anyway, on that level I'm with your statement above, C. van D.

I do differ on the after-effects, though; in a story, I do look for that sense of loss, the rememberance of yearning, but in the end, both for stories and for myself (if I was 10 again), the real interest is in becoming far beyond all that silly sex-drive; to end up totally disconnected from yearning and desire, to become someone(thing?) who's interest in sexuality begins and ends with holding hand and cuddling.

One thing about Simon stories, though; your 'victims' (the lucky buggers) are very various... while you do ackowledge your interest in the frustration side of things, you do have your fictional boys run the gamut of end results. Hooray for that!

That all said, I have to admit that Five Boys was one of my very favorite neutersol stories. Very well written piece.

By the way, nice job on your new one-off; totally new angle from you, thanks so much for posting it!

gellyfregy (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:46 pm I too appreciate CvanD's stories, as well as the Five Boys.

For one thing the newly made eunuch doesn't become a sex-starved bottom looking to be dominated, as is common in many other stories. They mostly maintain their identity as "boys" to a certain extent, unlike a lot of stories where the newly-made eunuch immediately becomes a feminized bitch in heat. (I don't have anything against TG stories, it just seems that most of "our heroes" aren't much interested in that sort of thing.)

I appreciate the "coming of age" aspect, as the boys figure out who they are and how that differs from intact boys. I appreciate that the boys have the courage (balls?) to stand up for what is right and for each other. I figured their frustration at not being able to "do it" was not something that would eat away at their consciousness, distract them from homework or team workouts, keep them awake at night, or make them lovesick, they way it does with normal teen boys. Maybe I'm not reading the stories right?

I wonder if they miss out on the "performance anxiety" that a youth or young man feels -- are they man enough, are they too attracted to other boys (or not enough), are they strong/coordinated/athletic/handsome enough to impress a potential lover. I should think it would be more irrelevant for them. Yes, they might like to have a relationship like Simon and Melanie, but they won't achieve that by trying to be something they're not, especially something that's never going to happen.

In many ways, the boys grow up quicker (at least in the stories) -- they aren't as irresponsible or try to show off or upstage each other to impress a girl. They don't seem to pretend to be something they're not (God's studly gift to women) but rather do what they want and do it as well as they can. Or maybe they do but not in Simon's group?

I look forward to following the neutersol boys as they grow older. I just fear that all the boys in sight will be neutered, and after that there won't be stories that meet the site guidelines (unless we keep getting flashbacks to the time they were each "done").

Anyway, thanks for the stories.

C van D (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:50 am I wonder if StefanIsMe has something in common with my character "Roddy" who was revolted by the prospect of adolescence, to such an extent that castration couldn't come soon enough for him?

As to identifying with Peter Pan, no doubt you've read the clever piece in Slammr's collection? If you haven't, the plot, in a nutshell is this: a newly-arrived boy in the Never-Never land discovers that Peter Pan himself, the Lost Boys and others, are all ball-less. It just happens! In the Never-Never land, where everyone lives in a state of suspended childhood, boys just don't NEED balls.

gellyfregy (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:21 am Hey, C van D

I might have a story idea for Simon's universe, but I don't seem to be able to PM it to you. I hate to post it in public before you've had first dibs. Is there a way to get PM to work, or some alternative that I'm not aware of?