I have very sensative skin and shaving has always irritated it. has anyone tried any home " permanant hair removal products " with any promising results. im willing to spend the money on something that works but i also wanna be able to do it in the privacy of my own home. can anyone point me towards any particular products that WON,T be a waste of munny. ( id be surprised if anyone here gets the munny reference ).

Visit the HairTell site (http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php). They'll tell you not to waste your money, and all the reasons why these "home" remedies don't work. I hate to sound so cynical, but laser hair removal is your best first bet, followed by electrolysis for any remaining hair. If you're not interested in permanent removal, try full-body waxing. It lasts several weeks, and isn't so bad.

I tried doing the sugar wax thing at home, I hated it, a lot, pulling a bunch of hairs out by the root made me want to cry! I'm back to just shaving myself :/ Eventually I want to get the money together to get laser done tho a more permanent solution.

Totaly agree with you there about the wax it realy is painfull i shave and also use a hair remover cream as well

id be willing to do electrolosys or laser if they had a home kit i could buy that works. money isnt the issue. its privacy

You don't need to worry about privacy. Electrologists are professional and there are a lot of electrologists who treat men with complete confidentiality. You can probably find someone near where you live (if you don't live in the complete boondocks).

You can start looking at this website... - good luck

http://www.lauras-playground.com/transg ... t_list.htm

I always wanted to try E-2000 but I can't afford it, I'll prolly try to save up for a couple years and do laser on the face, then maybe a couple electrolysis sessions to finish off any left behind.

Hey Smoothie, thanks for that site..I engaged in a CD chat for a few minutes..Nice..

I removed my whiskers with an Inverness One Touch, older model. It is slow but safe, about 50 whiskers per hour. Total cost was under $75 for a couple of the units, spare probes, magnifying mirror and batteries.

This is not a project for anything less than the desperate. There is a reason people spend tens of thousands of dollars on electrolysis, sometimes more than what they spend on sex change surgery. Home electrolysis sucks. It sucks a lot. I was poor. I wanted the whiskers gone. Few people are determined as I was.

I bought a One Touch on ebay. I think it was under $10. It is the kind that is rounded on the ends, no lid and no tweezers in the top. If you look at the newer version it has a probe, a buzzer and tweezers in the top. Look for the older model.

I stuck in the 9 volt battery, wet my finger like the instructions said to, inserted the probe, it hurt. It hurt a lot. I tingled for 30 seconds then removed the probe. I used tweezers to tug on the whisker. Still tight. Tried again on a different whisker for a full minute. Tugged. Still firmly attached. I tried for 90 seconds. That whisker slipped out easily. It still hurt. It hurt a lot. It takes most of 30 seconds to pick up the stylus, extend the probe. look in the maginfying mirror, line up with the follicle, insert the probe, remove and retract the probe, sit it down, pick up tweezers and removed an electrolyzed (?) hair. That meant at least two minutes per hair. That was too long. After only 3 whiskers I would have quit if there was any other inexpensive permanent way to remove my beard. There was none. I figure most people quit after one or two tries. Did I mention that home electrolysis sucks?

The process is simple. The probe is inserted in the follicle. Water, probable in the form of sweat, in the follicle is broken down by the current into a hydrogen ion and the hydrozy ion. The hydrogen escapes as a gas. The hydroxy ion, commonly known as lye, kills the cells of the hair root. I think some of the lye combines with oils in the follicle creating a soap coating on a killed hair root. When the follicle runs out of moisture the reaction stops so overdoing the process doesn't normally occur. That keeps it safe. There are electrolysis units that use a short, high energy zap to kill the root but they also risk burning the skin. Low voltage electrolysis has minimal risk but is slow.

I redid my research but there was no other low cost option for permanent removal. I took out the 9 volt transister radio battery. I hooked it up to two 6volt lantern batteries wired in series. That gave me 12 volts. Tried again. The whisker came out easily in 30 seconds. I bought a little timer at radio shack and set it for 30-35 seconds. Some days it just seemed to take an extra 5 seconds. I would insert the probe using my 5X magnifying mirror and good light. I would hit the strart button on the timer. I was working on my computer desk so I turned to the computer and read the screen or looked at pictures till the timer beeped. I would turn to the mirror, remove the probe and retract it, set it down carefully, pick up tweezers, pull out the whisker, set the tweezers down, pick up the stylus, repeat, repeat, repeat, , , .

The first hair I did on any particular day hurt. The second nearby whisker hurt. By the third or fourth whisker the paid was not nearly as bad. I think the endorphins were kicking in. After I got better at judging the direction to insert the probe, took an hour or two of practice, the first few whiskers might hurt a little but then it was barely uncomfortable.

I would do an hour or two a couple times a week. I did this over a period of several years. At any given time half the whiskers are dormant. So I would clear an area, maybe a square inch, and 6 months later it would look like I had never touched it. So I cleared it again. The second time it would stay mostly cleared with a few strays. Seemed like the regrowth was darker than the original dark whiskers mixed with grey.

My skin would be red and blotchy for a few days to a week or two afterwards. At that time I was seeing a gender therapist. I will refrain from getting up on my soapbox and lambasting gender therapists at this time. One time she asked me who was doing my electrolysis. She added that, "It's the best job I have ever seen."

No beard shadow is a significant factor in passing as female.

It's been 8 or 10 years since I finished. I remember the whiskers on the chin were packed three times as dense as on the other parts of my face and neck. I need to drag out my own equipment and remove the strays that have returned over the years. Probably could completely clear them in a few hours over a day or two. But I can go a month or two between shaves so it is not a big deal.

Having said all that. Home electrolysis sucks. It sucks a lot. You gotta be motivated to get past the first hour or two. After that it is not too horrible. There are only a few others I have read about who were motivated enough to stick with it.

I hope this helps

BernadetteTS

I go to a professional waxer, who does my whole body from neck to toe.

I started needing to go every three months & now I only need to go every five.

Waxing is not that painfull, once you get used to it!

Remember the Romans did it by plucking but then they had their own personal slave just for that task.

Ask Julius Ceaser:D