Like Quantum Mechanics and the cat, see below,

human perception of truth is influenced by the observer.

Not knowingly or malignantly, but two persons observing an event simultaneously may perceive different happenings.

Different truths!

As y'all won't accept

Moi as Emperor

with an absolute clear knowledge of

The Truth;

How about we delve into Truth Perception and recognize none of us have a direct link to the truth. (although Moi has the closest) (no comment on last part necessary.)

Moi

Quantum Mechanic and the cat

Cat lovers read not further.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&expIds=172 ... fc6f926f13

I tell ya', Your Honor, I was nowhere near the scene of the crime!

Moi, thou dost sophomoricize. If you and I stood side by side and looked at an apple, there would be slight differences in what we saw - our positions would not be quite the same, our eyes and brains would work a bit differently, and we'd have different experiential histories that would affect what an apple means to us.

All of this marginal subjectivity is the province of art. It falls to poets and painters and their brethren to explore what is truly personal. But little of this is of much importance, precisely because it is so personal. What can be shared with others makes up the body of civilization and society, down to the most basic social exchanges. The differences in individual experience are usually small; the areas of overlap large.

Looking at that apple, we'd be in agreement about its most salient physical characteristics. The physical reality of the apple would be measurable and undeniable. If that apple is thrown at your head, it will hit you with the same velocity, no matter what you feel about it.

So yes, there are unavoidable differences in personal perception, but they're mostly trivial.

Now, if we hope to last until our junior year, we'll stop these sophomore inquiries.

I think Moi, is caught between tick and tock, giving the rest of us comic relief.

River

Truth is relative. Since River's relatives are older than mine, I'm younger than him. See, truth in action

It may be true that my parents were older then yours however, at least for another week you are OLDER then ME.

Ho Ho Ho

and a bottle of rum.

River

Hi Moi,

The most profound thing I ever learned was that there is no universal truth.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:43 pm Hi Moi,

The most profound thing I ever learned was that there is no universal truth.

Elizabeth

There is one Universal Truth: all of us in the EA are brothers and sisters

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:24 pm There is one Universal Truth: all of us in the EA are brothers and sisters

And anyone not in EA is second class persons

not entitled to all our rights and privileges?

Where, oh where is The Truth in it all?

Moi

Truth seeker

didn't we cover this playing "rumor" in Jr High School.

That there is no absolute truth perception,

seems generally agreed.

So why do even EA members get in such a huff over someone else perceiving a different truth?

Moi

Truth knower