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Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:42 pm
by cbeard (imported)
Hello,

Does anyone know what the Catholic's church's official current stance is on Chemical Castration and Physical Castration? I am a Catholic, but this is really just a curiosity post. I could not find my answer by searching the web. Thanks so much.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:44 pm
by xxy--eun (imported)
HI friend

As what i know about catholic church, ( I am a lutheran) but have a friend of a girl who is a real catholic.. As we did speak about castrion and all theis, she said "We catholic DONT talk about this matter".

She did knew that I was castrated, in 2003....

When we did last time see eachother in 2006 we did have very good sex, here by my appartment in Sweden.

WE where also in Rom (Italy) in yr 2000 to celibrate the 25 year jubileum in the Catholic church... Everything then was very goood... Even then we had sex, and the day after she hade to find a priest to becomming forgivness for the sin she had done.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:29 pm
by tugon (imported)
As a recovering catholic my first thought is do what makes you happy and aligns your body with your mind. Since no one will notice when you go to church. As a gay man who used to receive the sacrements I was told I should not take communion since I was not in a state of grace. I said something about if Jesus did not want me to receive I am sure he would send a strong wind to remove it.

Back to your question. Since the church condems birth control and anything that would keep you from being fruitful and multiply I would think they are against it. Unless of course for medical reasons. I think in the case of testicular cancer it would be okay.

This is the same church that will not suuport the use of condoms in Africa to stop the spread of AIDS.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 6:52 pm
by Gibbonator (imported)
From the Catechism, 2297 on respect for bodily integrity: 'Except when performed for stricty therapeutic medical reasons, directly intended amputations, mutilations and sterilizations performed on innocent persons are against the moral law.'

I should think that respect for one's body and human dignity means that castration (physical or otherwise) would be out of the question unless it were to serve a higher good (eg. strict medical necessity).

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:29 pm
by saywhat (imported)
As Gibbonator pointed out. It is allowed for Therapeutic medical reasons. I feel that since they caused me to be overly sexual, and depressed, then removing them was a therapeutic medical reason.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:23 pm
by gareth19 (imported)
saywhat (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 20, 2010 8:29 pm As Gibbonator pointed out. It is allowed for Therapeutic medical reasons. I feel that since they caused me to be overly sexual, and depressed, then removing them was a therapeutic medical reason.

By therapeutic medical reasons, they mean to prevent or inhibit testicular or prostate cancer.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:58 am
by chemcast scot (imported)
As was said in another message,a church thta will not allow the use of condoms in africa to help fight aids,do we realy worry about what they think about castration.

As long as you are happy with your life and how your body looks,castrated or not it is your life and your body,so never mind what anyone thinks.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:23 am
by Eromel-1 (imported)
It all depends on how devoted you are willing to be in so far as research into original sources is concerned. I am by no means erudite on this topic, but my impression is that the key historical influx into history regarding this issue is the First Cannon of the first Ecumenical council (itself a remarkable landmark!). As you can readily verify from any patrological source, the idea is that any man who has, as an act of free will, rid himself of his genetilia, is heneceforth disqualified from the presbyteriate (priesthood). This does not apply to involuntary castrates. A highly significant distinction (in my humble opinion) in so far as the salient issue here seems to be voluntarism vs. determinism, in contrast to issues of sexualism vs. asexualism...but I must defer to those who study patrology in a professional capacity.

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:57 am
by Riverwind (imported)
chemcast scot (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:58 am As was said in another message,a church that will not allow the use of condoms in
Africa to help fight aids,do we real
chemcast scot (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:58 am ly worry about what they think about castration.

As long as you are happy with your life and how your body looks,castrated or not it is your life and your body,so never mind what anyone thinks.

You are absolutely correct, the Catholic Church over the last 2000 years has violated human rights so many times and ways that to take any high ground at this point makes them look hypocritical.

River

Re: Catholic Church and Castration

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:07 am
by Paolo
As Sherry Vine said, "You say I'm sick, I'm a sinner - but I am NOT the one molesting boys!"

AMEN.

And by the way we mention that topic here, but debate it in the forum where it belongs!