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Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:56 pm
by Riven (imported)
Experienced EA members seem to agree that if you really think you want to be castrated then you should try chemical castration for 6 months or more. Bearing that in mind, rather than ordering the drugs over the internet, shouldn't we be asking our doctors for chemical castration so that they know what we're taking and can monitor our progress?
What will it take to get doctors to prescribe chemical castration?
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 3:41 pm
by chemcast scot (imported)
well i can only speak from my own doctor but when i told him what i wanted he did look at me funny at first but he was very understanding and referd me to a psychiatrist and he prescribed me cyproterone and i have been on that for three years now but i do ttaly agree it is far better to get any drugs for chemical castration from your own doctor that way you know what drugs you are gettingand if hey are ok for you to take rather than getting them from the internet just the same way it is a lot safer to get castration done by a doctor than someone who miht not have a clue about what they are doing this is only what i think
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:43 pm
by Glasgow_kiss (imported)
I think with any types of drugs taken it should be done with the presence of a doctor because of how sensitive the human body is but when it comes to chemical castration it isn't as easy to get it off a doctor.
It would take a better understanding of this type of situation for the medical profession to acutally prescribe drugs!
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:27 am
by chemcast scot (imported)
these days doctors have a greater understanding of men who want to be both surgicaly castrated and also chemical casration true they do not just hand out drugs that chemicaly castrate you like sweets but after giving you an evaluation and finding out that what you are telling them is true and not just a fantasy then you will find outthat your doctor will give you all the help and support that you need and they will not treat you any better or any worse they will treat you as a person
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:58 am
by Riven (imported)
Thanks for that no balls. I'm sure you're right, in that it depends upon how you approach the doctor. It also depends upon the doctor being receptive to the idea. But what I'm trying to get at is that for 'healthy' men with high sex drives, hormone management isn't a recognised treatment. I suspect the reason so few of us have found our doctors helpful is that doctors have no protocol to follow. For instance, if you present symptoms, the doctor can look up a treatment plan and prescribe something or refer you. If it doesn't work out, his/her ass is covered because he/she followed the usual protocol. My question is, what will it take to get such a protocol established? Or do you think I've missed the point, and that such a protocol already exists and I didn't realise it?
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:07 pm
by seriously curious (imported)
My guess is keep talking to your doctor lay it all out on the line be honest sincere, and forward with your doctor. When I approached my PCP about chemical castration he was taken aback but then he realized I was serious I told him what I was doing and why he just shook his head and said OK. he put me on Spironalactone and slowly rasied the levels as he checked my T levels in the end I was up tp 400MG a day. the one thing he did though was keep a close eye on my kidney functions and liver functions and at one point had to stop taking the Spiro until my kidney levelwere back in line I can tell you I was Misserable.
There is no right or wrong way to proceed but starting with a good shrink might make things go a little smoother for you in the end. Good luck
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:34 pm
by mrt (imported)
I really do think its a good idea to have a doctor monitor you (Things like Liver Function) and to have a good chat with a therapist. Exploring "why" you would even consider this is vital I think before you take any steps like this that can be so life changing.
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:30 am
by Hash (imported)
If you can select your physician, select a woman and tell her you're having great difficulty controlling your sexual desires, for example: it's causing you to be unfaithful and or you can't stop looking at porn and that's why you want something to lower your sex drive. You'll be surprised at how readily she prescribes something for you. Women, even women doctors, tend to view out of control sexual urges as a negative thing. I doubt you'll find a female doctor to castrate you, but they are willing to prescribe drugs to control your sexual desires and or eliminate them.
I told a female doctor some years before I was castrated that I couldn't control my sexual thoughts and that they were inhibiting my ability to work and she was more than willing to prescribe an anti-androgen. After I was castrated I told the doctor that getting castrated was the best thing I ever had done and I said if more men were castrated it would be better for the world. She said, "I have to agree with you about that, I think it would too."
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:57 pm
by alex1234 (imported)
The first general doctor I discussed that with was quite surprised but proposed to direct me to either a sexologist (psychiatrist) or an urologist. The urologist was the preferred solution.
The urologist was surprised and had difficulties believing I would ask for that. I guess the first requirement is to explain you didn't just have that issue but that you have been trying to deal with it for a long time. In one word, that you are serious about it.
He is not exactly young ... but according to him, he had never heard of such a request. It took everything to convince him and the only thing he could propose was to direct me to a sexologist. I was a absolutely closed to that idea and just refused to even consider it. I think what made him change his mind is when I mentioned that I knew that these drugs are available everywhere on this internet ... but I wanted to do it under medical supervision. I mentioned the name of the most common drugs...
At this point he prescribed both the drug and the blood test. The first drug didn't work too well... but he then prescribed me some androcure and it has had the desired effects. I don't think he expected to see me again after the first time (because of all the side effects that would discourage more than one).. but coming back asking for something else probably convinced him I was serious.
I think, as someone else said, they are not used to requests like that and don't really know how to deal with it. He keep suggesting seeing a psy when I see him, but no longer insist.
I really think it's important to have medical supervision .. the issue is finding the right doctor with an open mind and convincing him. So my suggestion is try .. and try again.
Re: Safer non SRS elective castration?
Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2010 7:18 am
by mrt (imported)
I think the doctors wish that you see a therapist is not all bad. Talking it out and exploring why this is important maybe of great value. Finding the core of things is a plus I think. And for another thing I think this helps the Doctor feel better about this kind of treatment.