I am planing to start second trial run of chemical castration with androcur.

Current plans are:

* get a six month supply of androcur (considering 100mg/day dose for the first month and then 50mg/day).

* get initial testosterone levels.

If I like the results after six months - I will search for permanent solution.

Good luck! You might want to stay on the 100mg for more than a month, though to make sure you are experiencing the proper results. I think 3 months is the golden rule for most. This is fairly important if you are using this trial to determine if your testicles are going to go bye bye!

i would have to agree that you should stay on 100mg for 2 months, it took me about that long to get down to castrate level, and then i reduced to 75mg for 6 weeksm then 50mg for 2 years +

But if you do a blood test just before you start and then one a month later your system may respond quicker

fhunter wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:07 pm I am planing to start second trial run of chemical castration with androcur.

Current plans are:

* get a six month supply of androcur (considering 100mg/day dose for the first month and then 50mg/day).

* get initial testosterone levels.

If I like the results after six months - I will search for permanent solution.

Effectiveness of this drug is interdependent with your current testosterone level. If you have a higher T level you may need to take 50mg 3 times a day for a month or two and then slowly decrease the dose. And the drug itself can be a permanent solution if used over a long period of time.

I too did two trails. The second trial turned into a permanent fix. I had a lower T level to start so I took 50mg 2 times a day and on my second trial within a month I had no sexual urges and it was impossible to get an erection and night time spontaneous erections no longer occured and I lost all sexual urges.....except for still craving to be castrated. I am now using 1/2 a pill (25mg) twice a day and will soon try 1/2 a pill once a day. The rule of thumb is to take as little as possible to get the desired effect and then reduce the dose.

Allow anywhere from six months to a year or more for testes to shut down and atrophy. It is such a slow process it is difficult to notice all of the changes that are taking place. But if you document what you are feeling mentally, emotionally, and physically in a personal diary, over time you can look back and realize what changes have taken place. It's like watching a plant grow. If you look at it daily nothing much seems to be happening. But look at a photo you took of it on the first of each month and the changes become very apparent.

Remember to not stop taking the drug "cold turkey". Always decrease dosage by no more than 50mg at a time and go for about two weeks before decreasing it another 50mg. (See drug literature for details on why). I would be guessing that reducing it 25mg a week might be OK, but that is just a guess.

On my first trial I didn't give it enough dose or time although it did work to some degree. What I discovered when I stopped the first trial was that after my T level went back up (to it's below normal level) I did not like how I felt at all. I much preferred how I felt while on the first trial. So the second trial turned into a final trial.

The hypothalamus secretes gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) to the pituitary gland in carefully timed pulses (bursts), which triggers the secretion of leutenizing hormone (LH) from the pituitary gland. Leutenizing hormone stimulates the Leydig cells of the testes to produce testosterone which secrete into the blood to circulate throughout the body. Normally, the testes produce 4–7 milligrams (mg) of testosterone daily.

It is my understanding that androgel prevents testosterone from being converted into a useable form in the body which results in a testosterone deprived body and eventually, somehow, the complex cycle that causes the testes to produce testosterone is interrupted and once the testes stop producing testosterone, like anything not used, they just atrophy. (or something like that). So as you can see the hormonal interactions in our bodies are very complex as is androcur and use of the drug requires care, monitoring, and responsibility. It is not a levitra or aspirin good for a one time use, or for a now and then use. it is a serious drug that takes time to work and should be used at the minimum dose possible.

I have not heard of any situation where a person (male or female) de-sexed their male partner by adding androgel to their food or beverage, but it certainly seems possible. Something to watch out for ?

Getting rid of the physical, mental, and emotional sexual baggage has turned out to be a much better life style - for me -. Like any addiction, smoking, drinking, gambling, stopping the addiction is almost impossible; but once you do you finally realize the benefits of stopping. Having a sex drive is kind of like that. Once the need to reproduce no longer exists, you can have a far better life eliminating your sex drive in my personal experience. Other addicts will scorn you as crazy, stupid, etc. Think not of them but of your own well being. It's just one of those things; until you experience it for yourself you will never know how good it can be. And certainly fear is a strong motivator for not tinkering with one's sex drive; you fear if you destroy it you will be worse off than before. There is little to fear; if you stop smoking, drinking, or gambling the benefits are many, the risks are few. Pretty much same goes with stopping sex.

Enjoy.

Good luck with your next trial. I have no advice to add since I have no experience with chemical castration. Just my wishes that all goes well.

tugon (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:24 am Good luck with your next trial. I have no advice to add since I have no experience with chemical castration. Just my wishes that all goes well.

Dang. Just when I was kind of feeling good about the beneficial effects of chemical castration you have to go and remind me that you have what I have always longed for, and still long for............two gone. Arrrgh. Although I must say I won't do it the way you had it donw and I am sure glad that you survived the ordeal. As bad as I want them gone I still want it done properly.

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:36 am Dang. Just when I was kind of feeling good about the beneficial effects of chemical castration you have to go and remind me that you have what I have always longed for, and still long for............two gone. Arrrgh. Although I must say I won't do it the way you had it donw and I am sure glad that you survived the ordeal. As bad as I want them gone I still want it done properly.

That is one of the great benefits of the EA good information to make informed choices. I was a eunuch in 1997 and did not find the EA until 2004. Knowing what I know now I would have done it differently. Thank you as I am glad I survived and continue to prosper in most respects.

I just found some additional information about Siterone. I thought I had read everything about it but from the information in this documentation I am going to make some personal changes in my treatment.

http://www.unitedpharmacies.com/custome ... ductid=726

In particular I didn't know, or forgot, that exposure to sunshine must be restricted, and use of alcohol will diminish the effectiveness of the drug.

Since I may not be getting maximum benefit from my current dosage I am going to temporarily increase my dose to 2 tabs three times a day for one to three months, and then slowly cut back to two tabs two times a day and then eventually cut back to one tab two times a day.

I had managed to push aside my longing for full eunichism for awhile, but this desire never seems to completely go away, especially when I come in contact with someone who has (one way or the other) achieved the ultimate freedom. Kind of put me into a slight funk again, knowing it is unlikely I will ever be able to be a true eunuch. I will get over it (again). Poof.

fhunter, very good luck with your second trial. Nullorchis has written one of the best contributions that I've read, it's is so accurately informative.

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:11 am fhunter, very good luck with your second trial. Nullorchis has written one of the best contributions that I've read, it's is so accurately informative.

Thanks Sac_mec. I try. Not in the medical profession. Even though I try to be accurate and to the best of my knowledge I am being truthful, as always everyone should not take as truth or for granted what anyone says.

Do your own research. Get corroborating information. There is just no place to go to find out how to best deactivate your testicles. And now there is no place to go to have them surgically removed.

After much research I believe that herbs are the best initial option to lower testosterone. Ironically, Visit the bodybuilder web sites for leads on this method. Beyond that Siterone and similar drugs are the next best option. I went the self-inflicted damage route long before the internet existed and I can say from experience that self-inflicted physical damage just isn't the way to go.

If you had an involuntary loss, (eg. If you testicle cancer and had your testes removed) you will get HRT drugs, but there is little support for the mental and emotional consequences.

Gay, Straight, or M-F Trans, the EA is just about the only place where Inquiring Minds Can Go for information.

By all means if I mis-speak, correct me. And if you know what is good, bad, and ugly and you see someone dispensing bad information (maybe on purpose, maybe not) speak up. Job #1 is to ensure that nobody harms themselves or is harmed because of any information on this board.