Many people here are seeking for so called "eunuch calm". To get rid of disturbing sexual thoughts and obtain crystal clear mind. Some say that they have obtained clear and continuos thoughts without disruptions via castration.

Also many are seeking to be asexual, with zero libido.

As a side effect in most cases castrated people loose a lot of energy and feel weak.

that is all caused due to low T-levels.

I discovered an interesting site: http://www.wetdreamforum.com/

Many people on that forum wish to get rid of masturbation habit and sexual thoughts vie sheer willpower. Also they seek to be not filthy.

In some sense the goal is the same as for many here in EA.

The side effect of this approach - abstaining of any sexual activity - is T-buzz as they call it. It is a thought that continuosly and frequently jumps to sexual themes, it is also accompanied with some physical symptoms like getting easily irritated, frequent involuntary erections, restlessness.

Some people say they feel more energetic if they are successful in not thinking about sex or if they do some physical job or intense thinking. They call it "diverting a sexual energy".

My interest is rather academic here. I thought it is interesting to read for many. Still I am doing a academic test. I am using willpower to abstain from any sexual activity. So far I am successfully abstained for 12 days. I would say that it is not simple. I don't know if I have more energy. Perhaps. but constant fight with thoughts is tireing, time and self consuming. I am not very effective in converting sexual energy for other purposes. Perhaps it needs mind training and some behavioral habits. i don't know. I feel very often that I spend more time in fighting with my libido than it is rational. At the same time I feel I have made a very small step toward sexual energy conversion.

Perhaps the truth lies somewhere in between, too much libido will kill you and too little T will kill you too via to little energy...

Still, it is interesting. We'll see if anything comes out of that experiment.

This is a tough subject to broach. I struggled for years trying to resist the sexual temptations and sexual desires that so bombarded me daily. I actually believe that my constant sexual appetite inhibited my academic advancement simply because I could not focus on pursuing further education. I know some might say that that's a lame excuse, but if you're not motivated to improve your well being because you're distracted by your overwhelming sexual appetite, then it can impede your life by distracting you or misleading you. Simply put, strong sexual desire is like an addiction. Addicts seldom advance academically or economically and if they become addicted after achieving some success, it can rob them and destroy their lives.

Once I was castrated things did change, I did experience the eunuch calm and I stopped thinking about sex and getting castrated. (My castration desire replaced my sexual desires somewhere along the way, not sure how it happened, but I believe that sexual frustration had something to do with it.) So I had this tremendous overwhelming desire to be castrated, couldn't stop thinking about getting cut and attempted it multiple times. To make a long story short, Kimmel completed my castration and I descended into the eunuch calm, but didn't stop descending. I descended into a terrible depression and that's the extreme downside, not every eunuch has this happen to them to the extent that it happened to me. So I went to my doctor, she examined me and though she didn't fully understand why I was castrated, she gave me a prescription for some Andogel. I didn't use the required dosage, only about half, but it was enough to lift me from my depression. Now I use a small amount of compounded testosterone in cream form, each day. My testosterone levels remain low and that's where I like it. I'm afraid to go without any because my depression was so bad. But this low dose regimen has been extremely beneficial.

I theorize that my testosterone levels were too high, just how high I'll never know, never had my testosterone levels tested until after I was castrated. I no longer have those the overwhelming desires that I once had, though I do think from time to time about becoming a complete nullo and someday I believe I'll remove my penis. I'm not sure why I feel motivated to do this. It might be because of a rise of estrogen in my body or it might be because I think it's the way a eunuch should be. I hesitate to see a psychologist about it because I'm afraid they'll commit me to a psych ward and my wife doesn't want me to remove it. Anyway, low testosterone might bring you down to that place where you'll have more clarity of mind and a weak libido. I have libido, I do get erections, but it's not the same as it once was, thankfully. What's strange is that for me, I find myself wanting to please my wife sexually, I don't yearn to be sexually stimulated and would rather bring her to orgasm. Hearing her orgasm seems to set off something deep inside of me. I also think my penis has become desensitized and it's not the sexual organ that it once was, it's different, but that's me. I'm not sure if I've answered your questions or helped you, but I hope I have. Hash

I have not been able to describe how I feel nearly as well as you put it Hash. I did not have the depression you speak of but was very sick because of the tumor. However when put on full replacement I felt I had lost that calm and ability to empathize and I did not like it. I use 1/5 of the amount of androgel I was prescribed and find it is about right for me. I find myself feeling the same way about sex as well. Its different but very good.

Very good post Hash!!!

I am exploring my mind and how I react to activated temptations. I am seeking to resist temptations. Resisting is a reciepe to failure in longer run.

I wish I could find a way to convert this energy into something meaningful. I admit it is difficult to focus when you sit behind your computer and I often find myself at a strong urge to masturbate immediately. Still, if I am in situation naturally requiring 100% attention I do not think much about sex or relief and I feel I am more energetic.

I have a friend who isn't very strong physically. At the same time he has unbelievable energy levels. His energy and not giving up mentality has made him a successful in almost any business he does. I envy his energy.

At the same time I must agree with Hash about addiction and advancement.

I need to explore how yogi's alter their minds and see if it is possible to use yogi's techniques in converting that sexual energy. I met one yogi once and the experience, well if you can say that talking could be an experience, was very encouraging and promising. Psychological Issues we talked about confirmed my scientific understanding and knowledge about human mind and thinking. To be short, our minds are made up of different pieces and levels of conciousness. In order to manipulate your mind you got to understand how it is built and how it is working. Well, I am far from being yogi myself. It is all about self mindcontrol from inside.

I think also that I need to test Androcur, to see what it changes in me.

Well, castration isn't bodymodification only. It is a mindmodification too. And I think it is more mindmodification than bodymodification. To my understanding (yogi understanding) castration is a deletion of a part of your mind that you are not able to control or direct.

Well, I am not sure if I will ever be successful in diverting sexual energy into something useful, so please don't think that I am against castration. I am just exploring possibilities to get rid sexual addiction. If there is any? More sex? And even more sex until you are exhausted and unable to function anyway

I still believe that that T-level and actual libido level obvious relation is superficial. There must be a separate mechanism that activates sexual desire. T-levels feed that mechanism indirectly somehow. We now that real T-levels in bloo drop very fast after castration. It is a matter of hours for T to drop half. Still sexual desire remain for week or two. How could we explain that? Also you have probably noticed that right after masturbation you have no desire. It is almost zero. Have your T-levels dropped to zero? No, I don't think so.

For scientists this mechanism is yet to be discovered that makes us horny. Perhaps then we could lower sexual apetites without lowering T levels. Without any negative effects like hot flashes, gaining fat, weak bones etc.

Ericboy, when a guy ejaculates there is a release of prolactin that causes the guy to loose most tinterest in sex and stop thrusting. It's natures way of keeping semen in the vagina since our cocks are designed to pull other semen out when we thrust thus increasing the chances of conception.

I belive that The T molecules lock into the T receptors on the cells and you only start haveing low T effects when enough of the T recepters are empty which probably takes a few weeks. You only have so many T receptor sites which is why you have free T floating in your system. Addinm more T than your body cand bind to causes the conversion of T to estrogen and DHT.

ramses (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:42 pm Ericboy, when a guy ejaculates there is a release of prolactin that causes the guy to loose most tinterest in sex and stop thrusting. It's natures way of keeping semen in the vagina since our cocks are designed to pull other semen out when we thrust thus increasing the chances of conception.

I belive that The T molecules lock into the T receptors on the cells and you only start haveing low T effects when enough of the T recepters are empty which probably takes a few weeks. You only have so many T receptor sites which is why you have free T floating in your system. Addinm more T than your body cand bind to causes the conversion of T to estrogen and DHT.

The concentration of receptors may change also with use and need.

True for all membrane bound receptors and one mechanism of adaptation.

The number and concentration of membrane bound receptors is hardly static.

This is true for all thus studied receptors, opiate, steroid, adrenergic, etc.

Moi the

ramses (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2010 1:42 pm Ericboy, when a guy ejaculates there is a release of prolactin that causes the guy to loose most tinterest in sex and stop thrusting. It's natures way of keeping semen in the vagina since our cocks are designed to pull other semen out when we thrust thus increasing the chances of conception.

I belive that The T molecules lock into the T receptors on the cells and you only start haveing low T effects when enough of the T recepters are empty which probably takes a few weeks. You only have so many T receptor sites which is why you have free T floating in your system. Addinm more T than your body cand bind to causes the conversion of T to estrogen and DHT.

It all happen in our brains which is least understood organ. It works on mix of chemicals and electrical impulses. I am not sure if all substances have been discovered that affect brain function. It is possible to inhibit sexual arousal in brain by many different ways. So, how T affects our brain? are there other substances in between?

Science hasn't solved question, why some people are homosexuals and how they become homosexuals. Is it brain chemistry? Is it genetic? Is it a decision (that one I don't believe despite human mind is almighty for believers)

erikboy (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:28 pm Science hasn't solved question, why some people are homosexuals and how they become homosexuals. Is it brain chemistry? Is it genetic? Is it a decision (that one I don't believe despite human mind is almighty for believers)

Maybe if they research why some become heterosexual they might answer more questions. After all that desire to reproduce is so primitive in nature. I think homosexuality is a more advanced state.

Humor inspired by frustration of why everyone wants to know why I am gay and never have to explain why they are straight.

Please return to the topic of this thread as thread hijacking is now over.

Perhaps the most advanced state is achieved when one becomes a pure eunuch, but for most, the chemical changes or the drastic loss of testosterone upsets the male system so that he can't function, at least initially. Depression and hot flashes can be eventually overcome. I wonder how long term eunuchs feel about this?

I am kind of blogging here

We all can remember our puberties, how it started and how it felt. It seem to me that our bodies are very sensitive to T at the beginning of puberty. Full T-levels are reached at age around 17-18. If I remember it correctly. It remains on the peak till around 23 years and then starts to lower slowly. These are average figures of course it varies person to person.

But yes, I can remember that age of 14,15 I got hard very easy on almost anything. Masturbating to orgasm took only 1 minute. It all happened much earlier than T peak levels.

What I think is that brain developes patterns how it reacts to increasing libido. At first there are no reaction patterns. It seems to me. For example WDreams. They are easy to come at puberty, but later in life it is difficult produce those while abstaining from any sex. Also first WD seem to have almost no sexual content. Probably because there are no patterns in brain yet. It just feels extremely good.

Thats my theory of course. No scientific proof

But also there is extremely little scientific research how sexual behaviour patterns are developed. Still I am sure that there is something we inherit from our parents.