Don't quite understand the psychology of the man who wants a Tgirl. Does he want his Tgirl to be castrated? If she takes meds to make her breasts grow will that end her need for castration? Pics or videos I've seen show the Tgirls with dicks so is it correct that a penectomy would make her something else in the eyes of guys who like Tgirls?

It boils down to this. Should I have a castration? Should I keep my balls? What meds do I take to make my breasts grow? What would make me the most desirable Tgirl (pussy girl) to guys? I have the very tiny recessed turtle dick and wonder if I should have it removed and have a clit made? Where is the best medical practice to have the type work done that you guys would recommend? Thanks!

a Tgirl is a girl who simply have a body that does not match her gender.

Like, you wouldn't discriminate against a girl whose nose is too big, or whose mouth is too big, eyes too small etc, having a mismatching body is just another physical issue like the above.

The most desirable Tgirl is the one who is confident of her own identity, and isn't hung up and miserable over being transgendered. Whether she has choosen any physical alterations does not matter. Whats the use of a tgirl who passes perfectly but is so insecure and hung up that shes an emotional blackhole who's no fun to be around, nevermind whats between her legs.

The psychology of men who happen to date tgirls, well they're either fetishists objectifying them, or they're genuine deep people for whom physical "flaws" do not make them love someone any less.

We say, judge a book not by its cover, and yet how few people live a non-superficial life. How few can genuinely love someone for who they are.

I think it very much depends on the individual. There is a "shemale" porn actress named Danielle Foxx who recently had full gender reassignment surgery. Having her penis removed seems to have fostered a lack of interest in many of her fans, and outright disgust anf hostility in others. It seems that some guys who like Tgirls really like the idea of a girl with the same equipment as they have.

punkypink (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:38 am The most desirable Tgirl is the one who is confident of her own identity, and isn't hung up and miserable over being transgendered. Whether she has choosen any physical alterations does not matter. Whats the use of a tgirl who passes perfectly but is so insecure and hung up that shes an emotional blackhole who's no fun to be around, nevermind whats between her legs.

The psychology of men who happen to date tgirls, well they're either fetishists objectifying them, or they're genuine deep people for whom physical "flaws" do not make them love someone any less.

Hello Emily,

If I didn’t know better, I would suspect that you were a 60 year old philosopher, rather than a 26 year old youngster. What you have written is both wise and wonderful.

Love is not the meshing of complementary body parts, it is the meeting of compatible minds and emotions. It is the coming together of two individuals where their sum is greater than their individuality. Physical closeness may be important, but emotion is much more so. A recent survey of 2000 American seniors found that 83% of them claimed that “true love’ could exist without sex. Hugging and cuddling may be critical, but inserting body parts needn’t be.

Thank you for your wonderful post.

I think there is a wide spectrum. Some transexual people are (for example) men who simply feel they are born with the wrong parts and just want to be women. (or the other way around) They may gladly accept the term transexual while in transition but many are very firm that post op they are women (or men). And who are we to disagree? Some folks don't need complete surgery to become who they feel they ought to be. F2M transmen who don't do bottom surgery for example. Others I think are just stuck because of funding etc.

I think talking to a therapist who does gender identity issues can help guide you best. And talking to your doctor about this at the same time would be a good step. You don't have to decide about surgery for at least a year anyway and I think this kind of step is very good to be taken with lots of thought and expert advice.

Good luck!

& yes, Emily your post was excellent!

Based on comments that I have heard and postings which I have read, it appears that FTM people without a penis are more content and comfortable than MTF people with a penis. Most MTF people appear to feel having female genitals is an essential part of being a woman where as most FTM people do not feel the same need to have a penis inorder to be a man.

Is that because it is easier to be man without a penis than it is to be a woman with a penis? Is it because the FTM people dislike the thought of having a penis (especially a poorly functioning one)? Or what other reasons might there be for those differences?

Interesting obversations. Never realized that FTMs have little desire for a penis.

Allison1 (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:28 pm Interesting obversations. Never realized that FTMs have little desire for a penis.

Read a little more carefully. That isn't what he wrote.

It depends if the man just wants sex from this type of women. Some men are polite and would treat a tgirl or cross dresser just like any other women. Some just like the fact that there is a little extra under the dress. I would say it depends on the man your dating. But I never ever look at a person of any kind and think castration.

punkypink (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:38 am The psychology of men who happen to date tgirls, well they're either fetishists objectifying them, or they're genuine deep people for whom physical "flaws" do not make them love someone any less.

I think that is a considerable oversimplification . First of all almost all, particularly male, sexuality, hetero, homo or trans, involves some degree of fetishization. Virtually every part of the female anatomy, particularly breasts, hair and bottom, becomes a fetish in male erotic behavior. And the people attracted to t girls, like the people attracted to men, women, blonds, redheads, strippers and all other groups, run the gamut from human pond scum to near saints. Being trans, I will be the first to admit that in the dating meat market, we t girls have less of a choice of the Grade A Prime, and more of the human pond scum than genetic women, but that being said I am glad that there are people who like people like us and I think it ungenerous to slander them. Without them there would be a lot more lonely t girls.

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