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Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:04 pm
by Milkman (imported)
The term "detransitioning is being used for MTF transsexuals who return to their male status, but I would like to add that there seem to be a fair number of " former eunuchs", eunuchs who after castration reject the eunuch label, disassociate themselves from the eunuch support groups such as this one and apparently resume living as males. I have known four men in this category.. all of whom were castrated in their 20's. usually this takes place a year or so after castration. Has anyone else noticed this form of " detransitioning" among eunuchs?

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:23 pm
by Hash (imported)
Haven't noticed, but I would suspect that young castrates might detransition, simply because they made the decision when they were young; maybe too young. Castration, becoming a eunuch, is something that should not be done in haste or until after you're a bit older. I say that because sometimes young people are too rash in their decisions. But, I suppose that's not always true, older men can be rash in decisions too. As for the best time to get castrated? Maybe 45-50, before prostate issues arise, but I have no definitive time, what's right for one person might not be right for another, however, older men who get castrated, such as myself, seem less likely, in my opinion, to detransition. Perhaps that's because older men are more ready for it or have looked forward to it for more years.

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:03 pm
by graylayer02 (imported)
This is a very interesting question. I view it as one of identity in my case. Castrated myself 6 months ago (at age 30), went on HRT earlier this month, still have my destroyed nonfunctional testicles but hoping to lose those...and more...soon. I view myself as a masculine eunuch both on and off of T, but most people will just treat me as a regular male, and that's fine with me.

I have been wondering if this mostly relates to those who get castrated specifically to rid themselves of T, only to change their minds. I know one guy who did that. I guess in that case one's identity can switch back and forth if one thinks of being a eunuch as being without testosterone.

I know it's a sensitive question for those here, but I think that the best people to talk about this are those who have done this. What does it mean to detransition back from eunuch to male? Is it a matter of hormones? Other shifts of identity?

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:19 pm
by kristoff
you make the severely mistaken notion that most or all men who become eunuchs must necessarily not identify as male. I am an eunuch, and I am very male, and really always have been. Many others share the same situation.

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:26 pm
by Paolo
He said, as he posed for the picture...

hehe

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:27 pm
by kennath7 (imported)
Kristoff makes a good point I identify my self as a male eunuch

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:13 pm
by Milkman (imported)
Yes but all of you still identify yourself as eunuchs.. male or maybe neutral... The men I have stayed in contact with don't identify as eunuch any more...

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:22 pm
by kristoff
Milkman (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:13 pm Yes but all of you still identify yourself as eunuchs.. male or maybe neutral... The men I have stayed in contact with don't identify as eunuch any more...

Were they chemical eunuchs or surgical? If surgical, they're still eunuchs, no matter what gender identity they assume - physical nature and gender do not have to match in perceived equipment...

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:01 pm
by bobbie (imported)
Milkman (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:04 pm The term "detransitioning is being used for MTF transsexuals who return to their male status, but I would like to add that there seem to be a fair number of " former eunuchs", eunuchs who after castration reject the eunuch label, disassociate themselves from the eunuch support groups such as this one and apparently resume living as males. I have known four men in this category.. all of whom were castrated in their 20's. usually this takes place a year or so after castration. Has anyone else noticed this
kristoff wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:22 pm form of " detransitioning" among eunuchs?

Were they chemical eunuchs or surgical? If surgical, they're still eunuchs, no matter what gender identity they assume - physical nature an
d gender do not have to match in perceived equipment...

It is true that more younger eunuch's have problems adapting to being an eunuch. Very often this is due to the young age being done. Most have not really thought castration out. Did not really know about all the side effects. Many also think that they will not get some side effects. Or can do mind over matter and undo the effects. After living as a eunuch, they have second thoughts. Often will go on HRT.

A eunuch life is a very special life. The outside world has an impression on what and how we feel. Living in this world takes on new meaning to life.

Some get castrated for the very wrong reason. That is to please another person. To make them self a better slave. Make them less masculine. Some have problems dealing with gender. They are confused on who and what they are. All to often it is done as part living out a fantasy. Can not separate thoughts from reality.

You did not mention the guys that go through sex change operations. Some of them do not adjust well and go back to a life of being a outward appearing male. (still well be an eunuch for life.)

Most of the people that are on the message board or in chat room can be very active till castrated. They may stay around for a short time. We never here about them months or years later. They are just gone. I think it is often that they are living out the fantasy. Once they are castrated the fantasy is gone. Or like you say
Milkman (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:04 pm disassociate themselves from the eunuch support group.
As Kristoff mentioned the mind and body are two different parts.

Re: Former Eunuchs

Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:18 pm
by Uncle Flo (imported)
Bobbie has a good point about adjusting well or not adjusting well. I think this applies to eunuchs as well as to some mis-gendered people. Someone I had known a long time ago went through SRS and then went back to living as a male. When I was castrated he stopped all contact with me without a word of explanation. My guess is that I reminded him of what he saw as his inability to adjust. --FLO--