Music Publishers' boo hoo

[Kortpeel (imported)]

There's a lot of stuff flying around about file sharing and music piracy. Music publishers are claiming that piracy is costing them a fortune but is this really true?

Speaking as one who more or less lost interest in popular music after Elvis died there isn't much out there that I would actually pay money for. So if I were to listen to some pirated music, the publishers' claim that that little bit of piracy had cost them would be false because I wouldn't have paid to hear it in the first place.

So should they put up and shut up?

Kortpeel

[A-1 (imported)]

LONG LIVE THE GRATEFUL DEAD!

SCREW THE MUSIC MONGOLS! Shit on the no-talents like Simon Coldwell!

[Losethem (imported)]

I don't think I'd pay for music either. At least not this modern, no-talent stuff that is out there. Lots of it has a good beat, etc., but it's all highly manufactured. Entertainment in the US (and many other places) has become less about people having the talent to entertain us and more about finding some bobbleheaded blonde with big tits to put up on stage while she lip-syncs to the soundtrack of the performance.

Remember that chick on Saturday Night Live that couldn't perform because her soundtrack stopped? If she had real talent, she could have sung A Capella <sp> and finished the set. Instead she jumped around the stage like an embarrassed bunny rabbit, showing that she in fact has zero talent.

I didn't like Elvis, but I can admit that he had some sort of talent because he sang the songs himself and didn't have them synthesized on computers so he could lip-sync.

These jokers bring back real talent, and perhaps I'll buy something. Until then, I'll just subscribe to my XM radio and let it be noise in the background.

[kristoff]

I seldom buy music, never from downloads. When I listen, I have to have the volume turned very high, otherwise I can't hear half of it. Quite frankly, I don't miss a lot of it, since I've never been able to full appreciate it because of hearing loss. On the other hand, I can certainly appreciate the artists wanting to be paid for their music and performances, as they should be. Those who pirate, any way you look at it, are stealing. (And I have been guilty of it in past. All my software save one, is now paid for or free ware, and soon even the one will be upgraded with paid software. All my music - what little there is - is all paid for.)

[A-1 (imported)]

I don't think I'd pay for music either. At least not this modern, no-talent stuff that is out there. Lots of it has a good beat, etc., but it's all highly manufactured. Entertainment in the US (and many other places) has become less about people having the talent to entertain us and more about finding some bobbleheaded blonde with big tits to put up on stage while she lip-syncs to the soundtrack of the performance.

Remember that chick on Saturday Night Live that couldn't perform because her soundtrack stopped? If she had real talent, she could have sung A Capella <sp> and finished the set. Instead she jumped around the stage like an embarrassed bunny rabbit, showing that she in fact has zero talent.

I didn't like Elvis, but I can admit that he had some sort of talent because he sang the songs himself and didn't have them synthesized on computers so he could lip-sync.

These jokers bring back real talent, and perhaps I'll buy something. Until then, I'll just subscribe to my XM radio and let it be noise in the

background.

Bunny rabbit? Try JACK ASS!

I seldom buy music, never from downloads. When I listen, I have to have the volume turned very high, otherwise I can't hear half of it. Quite frankly, I don't miss a lot of it, since I've never been able to full appreciate it because of hearing loss. On the other hand, I can certainly appreciate the artists wanting to be paid for their music and performances, as they should be. Those who pirate, any way you look at it, are stealing. (And I have been guilty of it in past. All my software save one, is now paid for or free ware, and soon even the one will be upgraded with paid software.

All my music - what little there is - is all paid for.)

When you look at at a certain way Krister has a point. However, statues allow copyrights to have an expiration date. After that, such music becomes public domain. When you look at what the music mongols did to the real musical talent in Krister and my era, you will see that the extremely talented instrumentalists and vocalists who would not associate with the sources of PAYOLA, organized crime, were forced to Europe to be able to play and to be able to make a living with their talent.

This is basically dishonest, especially in light of the fact of what these assholes did to J.C. Fogerty and the widow of Jim Croce.

SO, I say SCREW THEM! when the copyrights expire the musical works of Krister's and my generation need to be made public domain. This will help to re-energize the career of the grey set of today that unlike Jim Morrison, survive until this day long after pop culture has moved on who make ABSOLUTELY NO money from their own works because the copyrights are held by music companies and the like. This is what enabled Michael Jackson to purchase the entire BEATLES library.

It needs to end, and the no-talent leaches who are making money by exploitation of the older generation of artists that still perform needs to come to an immediate and permanent stop.

FURTHERMORE, bullshit like AMERICA IDOL should be prohibited. It is just exploitation with a new face. The survivor series, John & Kate + 8 and all of the so-called variety shows are exploitation getting creative.

The leaches who manage to suck the blood form the talented and the no talents alike should be working in Stop & Gos where they belong!

Otherwise, in 500 years it will still be going on, and it will be like today if somebody had a copyright of the works of Beethoven and Mozart.

[eefje46 (imported)]

I download a lot. When the music is good i just want to have the album, so then i will buy it. I also download a lot of movies. When i see a movie good enough to see in the pictures i will go. Never spend so much going to the movies these day's. So bad for business. No.

I only use open source software, becouse closed software is in my opinion not to trust, becouse you never know what they put on your puter. I just want too decide for myself and dont want a big software firm decide for me.

[StefanIsMe (imported)]

I like a lot of modern and older music, back to around the 60's.

I've bought, on CD, stuff from early 70's miles davis, to YESsongs last week (lost that one ages ago, wanted a copy again), to a Nirvana cd last month, to a Benni Benassi cd just for fun a lil while ago, to a Primus disc just yesterday (loaned out Pork Soda and have been missing it ever since).

I've never paid for a download, however I have 'stolen' a few tracks... but then, I never feel guilty in the least for that, because I don't share them and half the time I buy a cd because of it (The Arctic Monkeys and The Kills I never would have discovered were it not for youtube, and I got copies of their cd's from the store in town when I found out I liked their sound).

I don't like commercial rap, the self-aggrandizing gun-loving and woman-hating stuff is a total bore and it sickens me, for the most part... however, good beats and awesome spits (rhymes) from some of the artists on the fringe are totally fun, but those cd's are not mainstream in North America... and they are typically NOT gansta' style; they are grassroots political turntableists and rappers, with a message about their own local problems to speak about. If it's got a good beat, I'll listen to that, but American commercial rap? Never.

Anyway, so yeah, thats my two (NOT FIFTY) cents on Rap :p