Hi all. First post, been a lurker for a while. I'll keep it quick since my first version was deleted by the web browser. I would like to give you my experience and get some ideas from the experts around here.

Facts

I am 30 years old and and mid 180lbs, a bit over 6' tall.

My wife has a much lower sex drive than I do to the point that it annoys her

Prior to androcur I would masturbate 2-3x day

I have always had a higher sex drive than any gf I've been with, to the order of 2-4x higher.

My wife and I have a routine for sex - unless she feels otherwise during the week we only have sex on saturdays. Sometimes that means a handjob, bj, or sex. This routine started when I started androcur because, well, I don't know - it just coincided.

Timeline

received siterone from inhousepharmacy

9/04 - started with 50mg the first day.

9/05 - no short term side effects -didn't feel sick or anything - so I up it to 100mg for the next 4 days

9/08 - last day of 100mg... not feeling anything significant.

9/09 - decided to go to 150mg total, 1 when I wake up, 1 at lunch, 1 at bedtime

9/19 - this is today. I've had my morning and afternoon pills.

Results

Don't recall the first night I stopped having night time erections but it was in between 9/08 and 9/10.

I have not been getting random or spontaneous erections at any time of the day unless manual intervention is applied

The last two days I've had some mood swings and getting more cryable when listening to old songs and laying in bed with my wife. I basically shut down my emotions when I got divorced many years ago so it's rare for me to show much of that - especially crying.

Have not masturbated at all during the whole timeline, well I have stated but then stopped after a bit because I wanted to save it for the weekly routine and be faithful - but this has only happened 2-3 times.

Had sex on 9/05 for the weekly routine but did not come because I was on some painkillers for an injury and it just wasn't going to happen.

I have had one blowjob from my wife on 9/12 during which I had easily 2-3x the ejaculation that I've ever had before. Not sure about the consistency (white or clear) as the lights were dim but it was everywhere.

Desires for outcome

My sex drive is at about 75% of what it was originally. Maybe it has not been long enough to really change but my wife, just last night, commented that I bring up sex too often and it's still annoying her. So I need it to be lower.

She honestly seems to be fine with sex once a week at most - I need to get there too without having the "I can't get it up" problem.

I would like to make the size of my penis smaller. It's currently around 5" long and 4-4.25" around. I don't know if she is messing with me but she sometimes tells me to not go 'so deep' because it hurts. Possibly she has a shorter vaginal area than the average woman. I want it to be 4" erect all said and done.

For the shrinkage I have ordered Estrofem and am thinking I'll take 2mg per day - I've heard 4mg makes things kind of crazy and too much too quick. I don't want a lot of feminization going on - just shinkage.

For those that would suggest, the wife is not into chastity devices as we've owned the cb-2000 and 3000 and I can get out of both with all combinations of spacers/adjusters. I can even come in the 3000 if I try hard enough, so that's a waste of $150+.

Questions for the forum

how much siterone should I be taking per day in order to get that sex drive down to once a week - as in, I'm at 150 now and that's doesn't seem to be enough - how long should I stay at that before leveling off to something lower - 100, then 50, then 25?

prior to all of this business I had a very low sperm count because of genetics or something - don't recall. So planning for kids is not an issue right now or even later really.

How long should I keep on the estrofem and androcur for a total period of time?

qwer1234 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:20 pm prior to all of this business I had a very low sperm count because of genetics or something - don't recall. So planning for kids is not an issue right now or even later really.

Are you absolutely 100% sure that you have no plans for crumb snatchers? Taking these drugs long term can end all chances of creating little ones. Even if you have a low sperm count you could still bank sperm now and then you could still have a chance for a tax deduction later if things change.

Taking estrogen along with androcur will feminize you. If you don't mind breasts, fat redistribution and other female side effects then go for it.

I think you are going too fast. Slow waaay down. Give androcur some time to do it's job. Think months.

qwer1234 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:20 pm Questions for the forum

how much siterone should I be taking per day in order to get that sex drive down to once a week - as in, I'm at 150 now and that's doesn't seem to be enough - how long should I stay at that before leveling off to something lower - 100, then 50, then 25?

prior to all of this business I had a very low sperm count because of genetics or something - don't recall. So planning for kids is not an issue right now or even later really.

How long should I keep on the estrofem and androcur for a total period of time?

1. You can not plan how many times you will have sex or when it will happen. Sitrone will work on the body full time. Taking it 6 days and not on the 7th will not control your effects. You have not really been on sitrone to really see the effects you think you are seeing. It will take a few weeks to start to really show the effects. Changing the dose levels should be timed over weeks. 100mg seems to be the average starting dose. After some time you may want to increase the amount or lower it. Have to wait for a time to see just how it effects you.

3. You did not say how long you were on estrofem. Is your goal to be more feminize?

bobbie (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:23 pm 3. You did not say how long you were on estrofem. Is your goal to be more feminize?

I have not started on estrofem - only ordered it. The goal is not to feminize much at all, maybe less hair overall and some shrinkage. Maybe 1mg once per day would suffice for that. Not sure?

Note: my sperm count was well below the levels to even consider sperm banking - it's just that low before any siterone started.

Question: should I lower my daily dose to 100mg of siterone or stay at 150mg, or just wait another week and see what happens. That will put the total around 3 weeks of usage.

qwer1234 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:09 pm Question: should I lower my daily dose to 100mg of siterone or stay at 150mg, or just wait another week and see what happens. That will put the total around 3 weeks of usage.

Wait another week. Most effects of siterone don't fully come about till 3-4 weeks and longer. When full effects realized, THEN reduce slowly. Anticipation often clouds self-observation. Time is essential - give it plenty.

couldnt agree more with Bobbie & Kristoff, I will take at least a month or more to just start seeing the effect. I would do 150 for about 6-8 weeks and then drop down to 100 if you are seeing the true effects you are looking for.

I would also get a T-test to see where you are at now.

DavidB (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:16 pm couldnt agree more with Bobbie & Kristoff, I will take at least a month or more to just start seeing the effect. I would do 150 for about 6-8 weeks and then drop down to 100 if you are seeing the true effects you are looking for.

I would also get a T-test to see where you are at now.

I had a T test a couple of months ago when the sperm count issue was being addressed, I'll see where that went off to. Thanks for all of the advice everyone

Update

Stopped taking androcur about 6 days ago. This stuff is serious business, that's for sure. Sex drive went to zero - which of course is too little. Then some oddness, ejaculate smells like chemical solvents? What is that about. I don't trust it's effects on my body.

Decided to head in another direction, let the natural course take it's action. I can deal with a higher sex drive than my wife in other ways. Thanks for the replies and comments along the way.