born in1933 I am one of these and lived it

[augman7518 (imported)]

READ TO THE BOTTOM FOR QUOTE OF THE MONTH BY JAY LENO. IF YOU DON'T READ ANYTHING ELSE---VERY WELL STATED

TO ALL THE KIDS WHO SURVIVED the 1930's, 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's!!

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they were pregnant.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can, and didn't get tested for diabetes.

Then after that trauma, we were put to sleep on our tummies in baby cribs covered with bright colored lead-based paints.

We had no child proof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking.

As infants & children, we would ride in cars with no car seats, booster seats, seat belts or air bags.

Riding in the back of a pick up on a warm day was always a special treat.

We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle.

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this.

We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank Kool-aid made with sugar, but we weren't overweight because,

WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING! !

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on.

No one was able to reach us all day.And we were OK.

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ridedown the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes After running into the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at all,no 150 channels on cable, no video movies or DVD's, no surround-sound or CD's, no cell phones, no personal computers, no Internet or chatrooms.......

WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them!

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no lawsuits from these accidents.

We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever.

We were given BB guns for our 10th birthdays, made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it would happen, we did not poke out very many eyes.

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just walked in and talked to them!

Little League had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law!

These generations have produced some of the best risk-takers, problem solvers and inventors ever!

The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.

We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL!

If YOU are one of them CONGRATULATIONS!

[StefanIsMe (imported)]

Damn, I'm glad I don't get the platitude-spewing spam emails you get.

This particular 'rant' email re-hashed above has always bugged me when I see it printed, invariably on some lonely cubicle-dwellers' wall.

Sorry... wistfully pontificating on boozing mothers as 'the good old days' strikes me personally.

Remeber that really odd kid in your class, back in the 50's or whatever, who just never fit in with anybody and had violent outbursts and looked a little funny? Remember how there were several in every school? Well, there's less of them now, because people STOP mothers from drinking when pregnant and producing FASD kids. My neice has it, bad. Dude, if you want to go back to the world your talking about above, go ahead. Then you, too, can take your brain-damaged kid and drive around the highways with him unbuckled in the back seat so he can die by being shot out the windshield when you bang into the abutment. That's what comes from drinking pregnant mothers and cars without seatbelts, buddy.

Every single senior generation in the history of mankind has been able to issue similar rants, and every generation of youth has sneered at it. It makes the writer look old, unbending, unable to adapt, and unwilling to accept change or advancement.

I see kids doing some of the things mentioned; and other things, thank the Gods that be, we have learned not to do.

I won't rebut every point made, but what on earth makes the author think it was only in 'the old days' that it was 'hard' to get on sports teams? Hockey up here for kids is not an automatic in, by a LONG shot.

[Slammr (imported)]

Damn, I'm glad I don't get the platitude-spewing spam emails you get.

This particular 'rant' email re-hashed above has always bugged me when I see it printed, invariably on some lonely cubicle-dwellers' wall.

Sorry... wistfully pontificating on boozing mothers as 'the good old days' strikes me personally.

Remeber that really odd kid in your class, back in the 50's or whatever, who just never fit in with anybody and had violent outbursts and looked a little funny? Remember how there were several in every school? Well, there's less of them now, because people STOP mothers from drinking when pregnant and producing FASD kids. My neice has it, bad. Dude, if you want to go back to the world your talking about above, go ahead. Then you, too, can take your brain-damaged kid and drive around the highways with him unbuckled in the back seat so he can die by being shot out the windshield when you bang into the abutment. That's what comes from drinking pregnant mothers and cars without seatbelts, buddy.

Every single senior generation in the history of mankind has been able to issue similar rants, and every generation of youth has sneered at it. It makes the writer look old, unbending, unable to adapt, and unwilling to accept change or advancement.

I see kids doing some of the things mentioned; and other things, thank the Gods that be, we have learned not to do.

I won't rebut every point made, but what on earth makes the author think it was only in 'the old days' that it was 'hard' to get on sports teams? Hockey up here for kids is not an automatic in, by a LONG shot.

Didn't we just go through this? And wasn't augman warned that continual posting of this email spam would get him banned? Same crap that's he's posted before; only the year has been changed.

I lived through most of this time, and there was much good and bad about it.

As a kid, I broke a front tooth on the dashboard, because we didn't have seat belts. I wonder how many people have been saved by seat belts and air bags? One source says 329000. Is that a bad thing?

It's a good thing that babies were poisoned by lead paint?

It's a good thing that babies were poisoned by eating pills from a medicine bottle with no safety cap?

Funny thing is...I knew people then that had diabetes. Such people do better today than they did then.

Please ban this guy. Maybe he'll get the hint.

[Paolo]

Suspended indefinitely.

Apparently, he can't read the warnings and tends to report ADMIN PM's as abuse to me.

Flo is abusive for issuing an infraction, huh?

Hello?!

[transward (imported)]

As an old school wild eyed radical, I am uncomfortable with anything that smack of censorship. These posts Augman has been posting, I personally find quite annoying. But there is a cottage industry cranking out and passing along these things, and it seem to be one of the main pastimes of senior citizens. (If Augman were born in 33 he would now be 76) I get these things regularily from Oklahoma relatives that know nothing of me. I roll my eyes and thank them politely and avoid family reunions. And even if the original post is idiotic (and it frequently is) Augman's posts have sometimes led to interesting discussions. They sometimes force people to construct a rational, coherent rebuttal to these posts.

So I would vote (and I know this isn't a democracy) to keep letting Augman post and let the rest of us tear him to pieces if needed. Perhaps we should officially adopt the net abbreviation MEGO (My eyes glaze over,) to describe this sort of post. Or maybe a new one IRME - I roll my eyes.

Transward

[Dave (imported)]

I wouldn't vote for letting these things go. I don't want to spend the time refuting the same points over and over again. I do self-censor myself in both the content and number of political posts. Hell, I read five or six political blogs on a routine basis. They can post ten items each on a busy day. You guys don't want to hear that.

We all have to realize that our words will not convince everyone and that success in an argument doesn't depend on the number of words but the ear of the listener.

[Slammr (imported)]

What pissed me off this time was that he put it in the JOKE section. Sometimes he posts fairly good jokes. If this had been in the political section - where he posted the last such piece of crap - I could have just avoided it.

The thing is: he was told not to post this bullshit email spam, yet he posted it. He was told he would be suspended, if he posted it, yet he posted it.

He got what he deserved.

[Riverwind (imported)]

You know its like a little kid you say no to and he does it again just to see what your response will be, so you say no again and put a little force with it and it happens again and finally you smack the kid. I only needed to smack my kids once after I had told them no. I am willing to make bet on this guy, he will still try it when and if he ever comes back.

River

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

I honestly feel sorry for this fellow.

It must be a pitiful existance, trying to be popular by forwarding and reposting the same old stuff. Too bad he does not have enough social sense to post something REAL that he had written himself, addressing an issue that would be interesting to the other readers here.

Don't get me wrong, I think it was perfectly correct for his membership to be suspended, and for some posters here I think it is right that they get permanently banned. They have nothing meaningful to contribute to the forum and their post are consistenly irrelevant, or worse, hostile to other members, then they should be banned.

But the point I offer is this, even if he does come back, and post more rehashed emails and trash then he gets banned... what a sorry sort of a person he must be. Lacking the communication and writing skills to write something himself, he just has to echo the words of someone else - someone else who actually can have an original thought.

[Arab Nights (imported)]

I understand the logic of banning once his posts have been declared an annoyance. However, if you look at them and ask if they are such a transgression as to justify banning, my vote would be no as long as the number of posts is kept within reason. Transward put my thoughts precisely into print better than I ever could. Having said that, I am not putting the personal time and energy into monitoring and herding the cat pack and would yield to their decision. At least it was done for a reason of actions, not because of the person.