Has anyone researched this combination as a means for obtaining shrinkage, without losing muscle mass? I was thinking that the approach might work, but obviously it's hard to research. I don't suppose any of you have actually tried it?

i am not an expert on Lupron, but i cannt imagine that any anti-androgen wouldnt have the standard side effects of lower muscle mass.

Dave

That would be the point of the nandrolone... I was thinking it might be an effective way to get the boys smaller without losing muscle mass... But it's hard to find additional info.

I would just like to say, that the Penis will shrink if you are castrated, or use Anrocur or Lupron. Estrogen is the biggest offender of shrinking penile tissue. I have also found that if you use estrogen and also use estrogen cream and put it on your penis, it will aid in it's shrinking. I also know that in my own experience I have a pee pee no longer long enough for any kind of sexual use. 2 inches long excited. It is no longer a penis. I will also say that sometimes it can be depressing having a 2 incher. Most of the time, however it is good. Be Well, spankey2:dong::dong:

i have learned that wite wine contains estrogen, can anyone say how much you would need to drink to cause further shrikage when i have been chemically castrated for 18 months.

allen stretch (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:42 am i have learned that wite wine contains estrogen, can anyone say how much you would need to drink to cause further shrikage when i have been chemically castrated for 18 months.

Probably about 10x more than would be needed to totally kill off your liver.

Nandrolone is a testosterone analogue; promotes body-tissue building processes; increases Hgh and red cell mass. It is also a Class lll drug here in the US. Testicular atrophy is listed under adverse effects so it may do what you want it to do.

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clysmaniac (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:03 pm Nandrolone is a testosterone analogue,

wouldn't its use act against the anti-androgen, bring back erections and therefore prevents it from shrinking? Also, what's its effects on the liver?

Nandrolone is actually just as much a progestin.... its androgenic effects are weak enough that bodybuilders who take it alone supposedly develop issues getting it up, as their natural testosterone levels start declining. My curiosity is based on a theory that it might make a great "testosterone substitute" for someone looking for that effect, while wanting to keep muscle. Also, I'm not aware of anyone doing this immediately after using something like Lupron, which would shut the boys down faster.

It's always hard to research stuff like this, so I figured I'd ask here.

Nandrolone will shut your nuts down faster than anything I've ever seen. Even at only 100mg/wk, it instantly shrinks nuts worse than 2,000mg/wk of Testosterone Cypionate. It does prevent erections in the way the above poster stated. I've never used it long enough by itself to see if it will let penile tissue shrink though. And of course, it will prevent muscle loss and probably build muscle. BTW, it's approved for use for HRT in men who fear prostate issues with testosterone.

Also, most of its erectile killing actions are not directly from it shutting down testosterone, as even men who use lots of testosterone with it suffer erection loss. This is mostly from it's progestin-like effects.