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They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:09 pm
by Dave (imported)
>>You've seriously got to be kidding.

>>Now I'm not a big football fan (unless they're winning) but I would go to BOO Vick.

>>And I do mean BOO!

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NEW YORK (AP) — Michael Vick was reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday and could play in regular-season games as early as October.

Vick can immediately participate in preseason practices, workouts and meetings and can play in the final two preseason games — if he can find a team that will sign him. A number of teams have already said they would not.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:40 pm
by kristoff
Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2009 1:09 pm >>You've seriously got to be kidding.

>>Now I'm not a big football fan (unless they're winning) but I would go to BOO Vick.

>>And I do mean BOO!

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NEW YORK (AP) — Michael Vick was reinstated by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday and could play in regular-season games as early as October.

Vick can immediately participate in preseason practices, workouts and meetings and can play in the final two preseason games — if he can find a team that will sign him. A number of teams have already said they would not.

He wasn't fighting the dogs on the playing field. He paid his price, it's done. He should play. Whether the fans will support him is another issue.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:57 pm
by tugon (imported)
kristoff wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:40 pm He wasn't fighting the dogs on the playing field. He paid his price, it's done. He should play. Whether the fans will support him is another issue.

I agree completely! He served his time and why do others want to continue the punishment.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:43 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Plus when it all came down he admitted his guilt and took his punishment like a man.

He did a crime, He paid his time, jail and lots of money.

Now its time for him to get on with his life and if that is football that is great for all of us.

It always makes me wonder, we call ourselves a Christian Nation yet we have absolutely no forgiveness in our hearts for anybody who makes a mistake.

HELL YES let him play and I will cheer him on.

River

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:11 pm
by StefanIsMe (imported)
Errrrm... touchy subject, no doubt.

I raised pitbulls for several years, every one of them rescued (well, bought outright) from my neighbour at the time who rolled (fought) them every weekend. Whenever I could afford it, I'd buy another pup of his that I knew was either going to end up in the pit or killed because he/she was going to 'turn' (choose to stop fighting).

And yet, yes, he has paid his dues and therefor should be allowed to TRY to get back into football. Okay... he has 'earned' his place back in society, and you all are right, he should be allowed back, I suppose.

But... if I saw him at a game, I'd be a damn sight tempted to throw bloody fight-towels at him (wrapped around bricks), and I'd be choked if he played on my home-towns' team.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:00 am
by Taylor (imported)
Vick lied to the team and NFL when the whole mess started coming apart. He owned up to it when confronted with irrifutable evidence.

My personal opinion is that he is just a punk thug that happens to be a moderately acceptable football player.

Now, that being said. He got caught, convicted and did his time. Let him play. If people want to keep him from football, then write letters to whatever team picks him up and vote with your pocketbooks.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:46 am
by transward (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:43 pm It always makes me wonder, we call ourselves a Christian Nation yet we have absolutely no forgiveness in our hearts for anybody who makes a mistake.

River

I think that anyone who has actually read the words of Jesus and studied the history of the Christian church pretty much has to conclude that, with a few exceptions, that particular franchise was taken over by the Scribes and Pharisees and their descendants a long time ago.

Transward

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:00 pm
by The Lurker (imported)
I am not going to cheer for him, but he has served his time.

If as team chooses to hire him, they will feel the wrath of the public's scorn, at some point the furor will subside and the issue will be done.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:50 pm
by sag111 (imported)
I do not like what Vick did and he was wrong but yes he payed his debt.Sadly we kill 4000 unborn babies every day and who cares about those who cant defend them selves.

Re: They let Michael Vick back into Football?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:47 pm
by gareth19 (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:43 pm we call ourselves a Christian Nation yet we have absolutely no forgiveness in our hearts for anybody who makes a mistake.

Well, only those of us who have never read the Constitution mistakenly call this a Christian nation; from the very beginning it was intended to be a non-confessional secular state free of the interminable religious squabbles that plagued sixteenth- and seventeenth-century Europe. Though you make the interesting point that many nominal Christians apparently disregard (and often despise) the ethical basis of Christianity. But that should have been abundantly clear from their willingness to embrace such notable moral pariahs as Billy Graham, Jerry Falwell, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush, or from the other end of the political spectrum the not so very Reverend Jesse Jackson. As Screwtape observed, it will be a sad day in Hell when religion ceases.

And yes, though I am supremely disinterested in football and offended by dog fighting, the notion of punishment and imprisonment has within it the concept of absolution. Whatever you may think of Mr. Vick, he has paid the debt imposed by the law and that should be the end of it though real religious thought teaches that the sinner can only be absolved through an act of true contritition rather the mere payment of a fine.