You may have read in the UK press the reports of a 14 year old girl becoming pregnant by a boy aged only 11. It later turned out that the girl had been screwing around, and DNA tests showed that the 11-year-old wasn't the father.

I have been encouraged by other Members to write this up in a "screenplay" but so far have got no further than Scene 1: the couple having sex in an abandoned warehouse.

For a later scene I have in mind a Social Services commitee discussing the case and recommending that the 11-year-old should be neutered to prevent a recurrence (the irony being that he wasn't guilty anyway). It would progress from there to "Bobbie" having his balls pricked, and, later, being introduced to a girl of his own age with the assurance that "he wouldn't be trying to make you do any nasty dirty things, because he's had that little operation that all nice boys have".

Any suggestions?

C van D

I would encourage you to write a screenplay-style piece about this, too. Definitely.

Some suggestions, keeping in mind this is just off the top of my head and may not be right for a story by you, but...

I suspect that after Scene 1, "Bob/Robert", feeling like a man and demanding he be called by a more grownup version of his name, would be bragging a fair bit to his mates about his conquest. This chatter may well get back to his older girlfriend, who would feel (rather stupidly, as she should expect it) somewhat betrayed; this would supply impetus for her to blame him, rather than an older, more likely lover for the pregnancy.

Of course, Bob should end up talking during this time to one or two boys who have had their balls pricked, perhaps one of them still upset, the other completely adjusted; giving the reader an understanding of the variety of end results possible.

Social Services, perhaps, know that young Robert is 'full of it' in his brags; he is, after all "only" 11, (yes, they can be 'fertile' at that age, but slightly rare), and I can imagine a fair number of these Social Services types in your "CvanD E.A. Literary Realm" being rather, to steal a phrase I learned from you, 'twee' about the results; "... hes had that little operation that all NICE boys have", indeed! To these school-marm, uptight old stodges, they probably expect a pricked boy to change over a fortnight into a perfectly angelic version of his former self... regardless of how often that REALLY happens, they would expect (and describe to parents) the effects according to their 'dogma'.

Even upon finding out he is innocent, I can see the ol' stuffy Social Services employees deciding he needs his balls pricked, what with all that bragging about having sex ("at 11 !! My God!!!") and all.

And upon 'adjustment', if Bob did end up being one of the boys who really does change in attitude dramatically, becoming a very docile young child with no interest in nasty girls anymore, wouldn't he revert back to "Bobbie", reclaiming his former boyish rather than manly position (and name), comfortable with it, even.

Perhaps even, literally, a poster-boy for Social Services' ability to turn problem boys into credits to their schools and families

One could also turn this into a tragedy of Social Services reacting too fast without proof, and creating a broken child, who becomes the impetus for a vast societal shift back to sanity and the elimination of neutering boys, but.... nahhhhhh, perhaps another time for that !!

Thanks for the opportunity to give input, even if you find the above ridiculous

On the contrary, dear StefanIsMe, I don't find your suggestions ridiculous at all. They are most helpful. Just how soon the piece will see the light of day, though, I can't imagine. Blame my clients for all having a March 31st year-end.

C van D.

C van D (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:00 am You may have read in the UK press the reports of a 14 year old girl becoming pregnant by a boy aged only 11. It later turned out that the girl had been screwing around, and DNA tests showed that the 11-year-old wasn't the father.

C van D

Has the press reported the age of the real biological father?

curious_guy (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:57 am Has the press reported the age of the real biological father?

As I recall, a 15 year old has been identified - but with so many teenage pregnancies the case has dropped off the radar.

C van D

Do you think there could be room in this story for a Parish Priest whose agenda is to groom the recently-neutered (and docile) Bobby into becoming an experienced bum-boy? Or is that one sub-plot too many?

C van D (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:43 am As I recall, a 15 year old has been identified - but with so many teenage pregnancies the case has dropped off the radar.

C van D

Do you think there could be room in this story for a Parish Priest whose agenda is to groom the recently-neutered (and docile) Bobby into becoming an experienced bum-boy? Or is that one sub-plot too many?

There's always room for Father Nelson types and their bum-boys....

C van D (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:43 am Do you think there could be room in this story for a Parish Priest whose agenda is to groom the recently-neutered (and docile) Bobby into becoming an experienced bum-boy? Or is that one sub-plot too many?

It would provide something to run parallel, sure; it could tie into something at the end, too. If you did end up going with the one idea I mentioned where Social Services gets lucky and gains, in Bobby, a particularly excellent (in their eyes) result from neutering including demonstrable change in attitude, grades, sudden total disinterest in girls, significant docility compared to before (dropping soccer (football, sorry!) for something easier, perhaps), etc etc etc, and as a result they DO use him in advertising / pamphlet as an example... if there is a 'priest in the pudding', so to speak, and he was exposed, it would create a possibly really fun kerfuffle . Yikes, the embarrassment not only to the Church (who are used to it by now) but for the Social Services school-marms, too !

Hmm... sorry for that hugely disjointed sentence, all

StefanIsMe (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:07 pm It would provide something to run parallel, sure; it could tie into something at the end, too. If you did end up going with the one idea I mentioned where Social Services gets lucky and gains, in Bobby, a particularly excellent (in their eyes) result from neutering including demonstrable change in attitude, grades, sudden total disinterest in girls, significant docility compared to before (dropping soccer (football, sorry!) for something easier, perhaps), etc etc etc, and as a result they DO use him in advertising / pamphlet as an example... if there is a 'priest in the pudding', so to speak, and he was exposed, it would create a possibly really fun kerfuffle . Yikes, the embarrassment not only to the Church (who are used to it by now) but for the Social Services school-marms, too !

Hmm... sorry for that hugely disjointed sentence, all

Replying to StefanIsMe, many days later. Well, I think I've incorporated all the ingredients from several e-mails, and 5,000+ hits may even indicate I've got the formula right, and produced something that members want to read.

Can I run something past you. Getting neutered, on the one hand, made the little boy impotent and sterile, but it was far from making him sexually inert. The procedure made him aware of his "privates" - and much more curious than he had ever been before, ready to try anything. Does this make sense?

C van D

Vicars, remember?

Harry, I think it was, was always joking about the Vicar and the altar boy in the Simon Series...

I think it was him - damn, have to check the Compendium that I'll never get around to updating!

Paolo wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:19 pm Vicars, remember?

Harry, I think it was, was always joking about the Vicar and the altar boy in the Simon Series...

I think it was him - damn, have to check the Compendium that I'll never get around to updating!

I think the point that Paolo is trying to make is this: that castration affects different boys in different ways. In the Simon series, Jack Elliott, who had once had quite a rampant sex life before his procedure, tried to make up for being made impotent and sterile (in which condition he'd been dumped by his girlfriend) by narrating progressively filthy anecdotes about Vicars "doing it" the rear-entry way, with choirboys, of whom Jack himself had been one.

As a parallel, little Bobby in "Mistaken Paternity" finds himself ready to pitch into anything, doing "oral" on his foster-parents' daughter, or presenting his buttocks to his parish priest.

C van D