I just joined this board but have been lurking for a while. To make a long story short I really just want to get rid of my masculine qualities as much as possible and am considering surgical castration. I want to try chemical first I guess as a test run to make sure it is what I want.

I pretty much just don't want to be masculine and really enjoy my feminine side more. I'm not in a big rush to bring out my feminine side but I guess I am more in a hurry to stop my masculine side. I have always felt more comfortable with that part of me. I guess I feel like I fit in (with myself) better.

I look forward to getting my order and can't wait to see what happens. I have been taking herbal testosterone blockers for about a month and while I notice some of the calming effects I just don't have a lot of confidence that it will actually lower my testosterone significantly. So I am going to try Cyproterone for a month.

Will a month be enough time to significantly lower my testosterone?

Thanks for your time. And hi!

Herbal will have very little effect. One month of cyproterone will have some effect but you need many months to really feel the full effects of castration. Most start out with 100mg a day.

There are very many accounts of others starting out just like you. Take some time to read them and see if the side effects are something that you can live with.

Wish you all the luck with your journey.

Good luck,

For the rest, I think Bobbie said it clearly

loveUall

Jean

Thanks! I may go ahead and start out on 50mg and continue the herbals at the same time and see what happens. I don't mind easing into it.

Why even bother if your underlying assumptions are:

A- you are only going to do it for a month

B- you are only going to use a small dose.

When you get your meds, read the package insert and you will find the recommended dose to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce testosterone is 100-150-200 mg a day. And it is better to start high to get it in your body and then reduce the dosage as you can to achieve the same results. But to start low and only for a month is ... Well I shouldn't use words like that here. You certainly are free to try things the way you want but these drugs and their effects aren't like taking an aspirin for a headache and in an hour its gone.

clysmaniac (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:21 pm Why even bother if your underlying assumptions are:

A- you are only going to do it for a month

B- you are only going to use a small dose.

When you get your meds, read the package insert and you will find the recommended dose to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce testosterone is 100-150-200 mg a day. And it is better to start high to get it in your body and then reduce the dosage as you can to achieve the same results. But to start low and only for a month is ... Well I shouldn't use words like that here. You certainly are free to try things the way you want but these drugs and their effects aren't like taking an aspirin for a headache and in an hour its gone.

I guess I am just a little nervous with the side effects I read about. I didn't say I was only going to use it for a month. I was mainly trying to find out if I could see any significant results in a month. But anyways, I will look at the package when it arrives and go from there. I want to lower my testosterone and if I need to do more than 50mg I will do that.

Thanks for everyone who has left comments. I am so appreciative! Thank you!

I got my order from inhousepharm in 7 days! Couldn't believe how fast delivery was.

I went ahead and started on 100mg a day and am on day 6 now. When I was doing the herbals (Evanesce, Feminol, Androease for about 2 months) I never noticed anything different with ejaculation but did notice entering a calm state that was fairly persistent. Now with ejaculation it is more clear and not nearly as thick. Perhaps the herbals gave me a good start.

I am going to drop to 50mg today and finish out the rest of them. I ordered Spiro and think I will just jump on the maintenance dosage. I'm still a bit nervous about taking Siterone due to the side effects (blood clots is the biggy). Since I won't be using a doctor to monitor my status I think Spiro may be the safer choice. There are physical signs you can watch for such as darker urine, etc to identify problems.

Does this sound like a workable plan? Any obvious problems you can see?

Thanks for your incredibly helpful advice!

Hey,

Let my once more wish you good luck. I just hope you are the next one who shows me that this stuff can work.

But let me have you a nice warning. A warning I didn't see here before.....

It is a habituating drug

Even after only one month, you may have noticed a change in your mind. No I am not talking about the colour of the cum, its the colour of your feelings that may change. A change of feelings that can be so positive that even after only a month, there is no way back, you may hang on it forever.....

And to this "warning", I would like to ad only one advice:

Go for it, have it a try

Wishing you nice colours

loveUall

Jean

Sorry, I forget one point....there sure is a clear sign you should take care for: If some-one is not seeing a doctor, he is hiding. After a short while you will notice that your fair is gone with the wind. Use that "brave"

site effect, take the meds with you and go see your doctor

Spiro has side effects to like causing a buildup in potassium. The negative side effects that are problems with CA are usually due to VERY high doses (>800mg/day) and or being 70+ years old and the main problems there are with the liver.

Do you have any current conditions that may increase clotting or liver problems? Do you currently take anything like a beta blocker, thinning agent or anything for high blood pressure?

If you want to see what it's like to have castrate levels of T, you have to get to castrate levels to see what it's like. You will also save money and stress on your body by starting with a higher dose and stepping down to a lower maintenance dose once your T has crashed. If you are not going to use CA, you might want to look at Depo Provera.

Jean, I think I understand. Who would want to come back after you find yourself in a great situation!

Ramses, you make a good point there. I didn't realize that the increase in blood clots is for higher doses. I have never had any of the problems you you stated. I would probably be better off to stick with the Siterone 100mg for a month then drop to 50mg. I actually do want some feminizing effects so the Depo Provera probably wouldn't be my choice (even though I like the one shot every 3 weeks or so. much easier to maintain).

Thank you so much for your advice! It is most appreciated!