Your lactic acid experience

[myrameowmeow (imported)]

Hey guys thanx for the advice on my last post. I just ordered 88% lactic acid and lidocaine and before i do this i wana hear some of your experiences with lactic acid or any other chemical and yes i do know fully about scotties story thanx meow o p.s. Iv been switching between saline and alcohol injections and also iv been chemically castrated for a half year

[kristoff]

Hey guys thanx for the advice on my last post. I just ordered 88% lactic acid and lidocaine and before i do this i wana hear some of your experiences with lactic acid or any other chemical and yes i do know fully about scotties story thanx meow o p.s. Iv been switching between saline and alcohol injections and also iv been chemically castrated for a half year

Look up the experiences here of scottie. You are a freaking moron on a death wish if you inject that shit. Scottie very nearly died and was hospitalized for some time because of it. Couldn't be more gentle on you... Hope you arent a moron.

[kizahakan (imported)]

Look up the experiences here of scottie. You are a freaking moron on a death wish if you inject that shit. Scottie very nearly died and was hospitalized for some time because of it. Couldn't be more gentle on you... Hope you arent a moron.

husssh Nun u know she's just a cat and probably thinks she 9 nine lifes to live

Buy meaouw u know its the curiosity that kill the cat so take good care of urself...

[nonuts (imported)]

Retarded, is about all I can say to this idea. The only bright side I could possibly bright side I can see is perhaps Darwinian (you know improvement of the gene pool). Yes, harsh as hell, and anyone who really know me here knows that I am a pretty nice guy overall. So, when I use language so caustic there is very good reason. Lactic acid doesn't stop at some membrane (like the outer shell of your testicle, it just keeps eating away tissue toward your sack, and worse toward your perineum where you could cause trouble with your bowels, just to name one complication).

This is a STUPID plan, please don't be a stupid person by doing it.

[Dave (imported)]

Hey guys thanx for the advice on my last post. I just ordered 88% lactic acid and lidocaine and before i do this i wana hear some of your experiences with lactic acid or any other chemical and yes i do know fully about scotties story thanx meow o p.s. Iv been switching between saline and alcohol injections and also iv been chemically castrated for a half year

If you do this, call the ambulance first. Make sure they are on the way to take care of you.

Again: You will need the ambulance. Call before you shoot up because you might just pass out.

Better yet, do it in the Emergency bay of the parking lot and then walk into the hospital.

Be prepared for a full psychiatric work up -- that means 3 days to a week or more under psychiatric care.

Find a psychiatrist or psychologist to help you through the transition and to help you get a real doctor to have this done. You might think that this is a lot of trouble but aren't you worth it? Aren't you worth being assured that your medical treatment is professional and safe?

[fhunter]

Hey guys thanx for the advice on my last post. I just ordered 88% lactic acid and lidocaine and before i do this i wana hear some of your experiences with lactic acid or any other chemical and yes i do know fully about scotties story thanx meow o p.s. Iv been switching between saline and alcohol injections and also iv been chemically castrated for a half year

What are you trying to achieve?

What you are going to do is dangerous, but you probably heard that already.

Why don't you go by safe route?

[bobbie (imported)]

I just ordered 88% lactic acid and lidocaine and before i do this i wana hear some of your experiences with lactic acid

Go for it. Just make sure I am in your will first and it is notarized. Send me a copy. If you do not have at least $10,000 for me, I do not even want to here from you. Not worth the time and trouble with taxes lawyers and such.

Send an address and I may send flowers in any case. The least I can do.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

Go for it. Just make sure I am in your will first and it is notarized. Send me a copy. If you do not have at least $10,000 for me, I do not even want to here from you. Not worth the time and trouble with taxes lawyers and such.

Send an address and I may send flowers in any case. The least I can do.

Hey Bobbie,

don't be so hard on him. Why, he is human you know.

myrameowmeow, please don't do this. And if you can't stop yourself.....

have us that address. I will send flowers, with my love AND respect.

It's your life, and if I don't like others to make decisions for me, I am not in the position to criticize yours....

I love you and all the others, and if you want to make me happy: don't do it

loveUall

Jean

[JesusA (imported)]

Here are a couple of relevant quotations from the publication Welfare Implications of Castration of Cattle published in 2007 by the American Veterinary Medical Association.

http://www.avma.org/reference/backgroun ... e_bgnd.asp

Chemical methods of castration include injection of sclerosing or toxic agents (e.g., 88% lactic acid) into the testicular parenchyma to cause irreparable damage and loss of function. Chemical castration requires additional procedural time and technical skill, and almost twice the healing time compared with surgical castration. Androgen production and male behavior continued in 5 of 28 50- to 128-kg calves, indicating a high failure rate. In addition, healing was considered to be unsatisfactory in 25% of chemically castrated calves, compared with 3% of surgically castrated calves.

In other words, successful use of lactic acid requires a high level of technical skill, and even with a skilled technician has a nearly 20% failure rate. A quarter had unsuccessful healing of the area (probably due to leakage of the chemical from the testicles).

WELFARE CONCERNS—SCIENCE, RISKS, AND SEVERITY

Acute pain—

section on pain caused by other methods deleted—see original article

Intratesticular injection of an 88% lactic acid solution in 50- to 128-kg calves resulted in similar or increased severity of behavioral responses compared with those following surgical castration. No significant differences were observed in scrotal swelling and pain for the first 2 days after surgery. In addition, healing was prolonged and unsatisfactory for chemically castrated calves compared to those surgically castrated.

Note that healing took longer than surgical castration and sometimes did not EVER heal properly. The pain associated with chemical castration as great or greater than for surgical castration without anesthesia.

There is a reason why lactic acid injection is seldom used; a reason why the manufacturer of Chem-Cast™ no longer makes or sells it.

[DeaconBlues (imported)]

Several YEARS ago, I found the "Gonex" website, and it seemed that FDA approval was just around the corner... WHAT HAPPENED?!

Gonex was a SINGLE INJECTION that would cause permanent and irreversable castration. Primarily it would be used for animals, every animal, dog, cat, beef cattle, and yes, it would work very well for humans as well.

Gonex was supposed to permanently block the receptors on the pituitary gland, to "trick" it into behaving as though there was an excess of testosterone even if there were no testosterone. In laboratory animal trials, the effects were quick, painless, and as simple as a single injection. Once in the bloodstream, the active ingredient would go to the pituitary gland, and mimic testosterone, but permanently remain there, so that the "GNRH" (gonadotropin releasing hormone), the chemical messenger that turns on or off the testicles production of testosterone, would never be released.

It SEEMED to me to be an infinitely better way to castrate people or animals, so WHY hasn't this method of castration "taken the vet community by storm" or been used by urologists treating testicular cancer?

All the other methods discussed here, lactic acid, crushing, even surgical removal, seem crude and even cruel if this single injection method could work... What ever happened to this promising and interesting drug?