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Apparently this guy had previously amputated a significant portion of his genitals, and was trying to complete the act.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/642 ... ation.html

Prisoner amputates penis at Monroe prison complex

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

MONROE, Wash. -- A convicted murderer at the Washington state prison complex in Monroe was hospitalized after his second attempt to cut off his penis.

A spokeswoman for the Monroe Correctional Complex, Cathy Kopoian, says the 49-year-old inmate has a history of mental illness and already had amputated much of his genitals several years ago.

He apparently used a razor blade to cut off what remained on Thursday. Kopoian tells The Herald of Everett that he was taken to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle with serious cuts to the groin. His condition was not immediately available Thursday night.

Kopoian says prisoners are permitted basic necessities - including razors - under state law.

Kopoian says the man was convicted on July 1, 1977, for aggravated first-degree murder and was sentenced to life without parole.

Corrections Department spokesman Chad Lewis said he did not have the prisoner's full name Thursday night.
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It would be interesting to find out why he murdered. What aggravated him? Did he find out his girlfriend was in love with another man? Was he jilted? Was it the testosterone that he blames or is his remorse responsible for his self inflicted amputation or is it sexual frustration. There are millions of people suffering with some type of mental illness in varying degrees, but few seem to go so far as amputating their genitals. I wonder if he blames his genitals for his murderous act.
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He is 49 years old now, that means that in 1977 when he was convicted and
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:12 pm sentenced to life without parole
he was only 17 to 18 years old.

I know that I was very stupid in some of the choices I had made at that age. The fact that the department of corrections had him for more than twenty years and he still seems quite insane makes a point that I all too often overemphasize, that our prisons are damn near worthless and ineffective at correcting the real problems that most of the prisoners have.

IF, instead of sentencing him to life without parole in 1977, he instead was given INTENSE psychiatric, medical and physical aid, and even "spiritual" instruction for ten years... I imagine that it would have cost the taxpayer MUCH less in the long run and returned him to a somewhat useful and meaningful life.
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Considering the whacko this guy apparently is and has been for over 30 years, the money is better spent locking up the MF so he can't offend again. How many murders is one allowed before being put away for good? Build more prisons, but for God's sake, don't let the bastards out.

Is the gentle approach the way the new liberal mindset is headed?
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The prison system is overloaded with nut-balls that should be in mental hospitals. We can thank Uncle Ronnie for opening the door to California's mental institutions in the name of preserving the patient's dignity, and saving tax payer dollars. HA! Instead of investigating and firing abusers, he set the patients free to fend for themselves. Now they don't receive proper help, and our prison system is maxed out to the point of releasing dangerous felons back onto the streets.

One of the goals of the prison is to keep those nasty bad-assess off the streets so that our streets are safer for law abiding citizens. It's not working so well now.
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DeaconBlues (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:41 pm He is 49 years old now, that means that in 1977 when he was convicted and
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DeaconBlues (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:41 pm e=1235628720]
sentenced to life without parole
he was only 17 to 18 years old.

I know that I was very stupid in some of the choices I had made at that age. The fact that the department of corrections had him for more than twenty years and he still seems quite insane makes a point that I all too often overemphasize, that our prisons are damn near worthless and ineffective at correcting the real problems that most of the prisoners have.

IF, instead of sentencing him to life without parole in 1977, he instead was given INTENSE psychiatric, medical and physical aid, and even "spiritual" instruction for ten years... I imagine that it would have cost the taxpayer MUCH less in the long run an
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d returned him to a somewhat useful and meaningful life.

A .22 slug to the brainstem is the solution to his problems. He should have recieved it in 1977.
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A-1 (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:11 pm A .22 slug to the brainstem is the solution to his problems. He should have recieved it in 1977.

I am sorry, I cannot agree with you on the ".22 calibre solution." I oppose the death penalty.

Even though I do oppose the death penalty, a simple ".22 slug to the brainstem" would be an infinitely better method than the current methods of execution we use here in the U.S. So, if I ever DID support the death penalty, I would definitely prefer to see the simplest, quickest, and most economical method used, and that would indeed be a bullet at point blank range fired into the skull.

I think maybe my previous post was misunderstood. I believe that the human mind CAN be reset, reformed, and there is nothing anyone can say here to change my own thought on this matter. I have first hand experience in corrections, I have read extensively on these matters, and finally, I DO in fact know everything.... (OK, just kidding about that last one there!) Anyway, I believe very strongly that our current systems of justice and criminal punishment and "correction" are so horribly INeffective that they are a comical farce, except that it is too tragic to laugh at. We wast billions on a system that is totally incompetent, we torture many misguided folks who only need to be properly understood and made healthy again, and we just keep doing the same stupid and ineffective things more and more. We are heading in the WRONG direction, and going faster or more efficiently in the WRONG direction is still WRONG, just faster WRONG.

Do not misunderstand me, I am NOT for "molly codling" any criminals, on the contrary, I believe in VERY INTENSE corrective programs being applied to those who need correction. What I am against is the horribly wasteful, counter-productive and inefficient methods we are currently using.

So, while you might scoff at my suggestion that the murderer who
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 26, 2009 5:12 pm was sentenced to life without parole
at age 17 or 18, be instead sent to 10 years of intense corrective program, I would tell you to consider that when I say "intense" I do mean intense. I am certain, that the human personality, even egregiously defective personalities, CAN BE CHANGED, and they can be changed economically and quickly by professionals who are committed to correction (very UNlike our current corrections "professionals").
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When people are saying, thou shall not kill. How can someone then kill a person who killed someone. Let the Lord be his judge. If he is a psycho then put him under treatment. Others can be put away in jail. This also creates jobs. And an eye for an eye makes the world blind.

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This thread is done. Don't start it again.
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