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The discomfort of others.

Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:54 pm
by Milkman (imported)
One thing that becomes clear for anyone seeking castration, is that it is denied, because it makes others uncomfortable, not real medical reasons. It is not a major surgery and as we all KnoW there are major benefits to having the procedure late in life. Forcing men into underground " services " or obviously substandard care as was offered by Kimmel and Spector.. is the major medical risk it seems.

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 1:15 am
by IbPervert (imported)
I would like to add...

Plus, People today want to give a wide birth to groups like the Nazi's who castrated people that were below their standards.

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:07 pm
by Losethem (imported)
I would speculate there is a huge difference in IBPervert's Nazi statement. The Nazi's castrated people unwillingly, most people who come here have had it done or want it to be done, voluntarily.

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:42 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Having these thoughts or being at a place like this certaily DOES NOT signify "NORMAL", if you define normal as the mean of a bell-shaped curve represenative of any segment of mankind.

People considering elective castration are certainly a minority, but there are many men castrated to control prostate cancer. SO the number of the castrated people in the western world is significant.

However, it also DOES NOT rule out the possibility that mainstream individuals do not have a fear of castration right down to the bottom of their Id. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id,_ego,_and_super-ego)

This can also be true of women. (http://www.pep-web.org/document.php?id=ijp.016.0227a) This is NOT to say that women ALL feel this way. Some feel exactly the opposite. (http://books.google.com/books?id=NgB0yi ... &ct=result) Hower, the very real possibility exists that the resistance to the subject of CASTRATION evolks a MASS PSYCHOSIS (http://www.swans.com/library/art10/mgarci19.html) in the majority of western society, or more fairly, society in general.

SO, for the 'silent minority' to which many of the members of the E.A. belong, the persecution, ridicule, and fear of them will continue until people are educated. In addition, until the medical community, consisting of many, many very intelligent people, comes to realize the psychodynamics of the members of their own profession, castration will continue to be a taboo subject except for the specialty of urology, where its use under this medical specialty is strictly controlled.

TO put in the vernacular of the typical, practical, country boys, "WE don't shun or make fun of women who go into have plastic surgery including breast implants of unreasonable size, so why should people care if somebody wants to go in and have their balls lopped off?"

Vernacular is a problem. The use of the word orchiectomy is not widespread outside of medical venues. Nevertheless, there IS a need to come up with another word for 'castration' that does not carry all of the negative connotations that society has attached to it.

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:55 pm
by Riven (imported)
Yes. Castration is a very taboo subject. But I wonder if we'd all find it as appealing if it was a more 'normal' and widespread activity?

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:24 pm
by Francis (imported)
A-1 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:42 pm TO put in the vernacular of the typical, practical, country boys, "WE don't shun or make fun of women who go into have plastic surgery including breast implants of unreasonable size, so why should people care if somebody wants to go in and have their balls lopped off?"

Vernacular is a problem. The use of the word orchiectomy is not widespread outside of medical venues. Nevertheless, there IS a need to come up with another word for 'castration' that does not carry all of the negative connotations that society has attached to it.

How about "suspensory adjustment"; "comfort modification"; "cosmetic smoothing"; "genital wart removal" 😄😄

Any other imaginative thoughts out there?🍑👋🍑👋

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:17 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
Riven (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:55 pm Yes. Castration is a very taboo subject. But I wonder if we'd all find it as appealing if it was a more 'normal' and widespread activity?

Taboo today, not so in the past. Historically, eunuchism was accepted and encouraged by various societies.

I don't see the practice taking off anytime soon. I'd say give it a few more generations, then maybe.

chilli-

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:33 pm
by Riven (imported)
chilliwilli (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:17 pm Taboo today, not so in the past. Historically, eunuchism was accepted and encouraged by various societies.

I don't see the practice taking off anytime soon. I'd say give it a few more generations, then maybe.

chilli-

I wonder? 20 or 30 years ago it was very strange (in modern western society) to have piercings. Even ear piercings for women were out of fashion for my mother's generation. But as the turn of the 21st century approached it became fashionable for both men and women to have multiple piercings and, as we know, not only in ears. I think it's not unreasonable to suggest that it's on the back of this 'acceptance' of body modification practices in general that castration is now not only being talked about, but slowly coming out of the closet. Society is now much more used to the idea of gender changes (SRS) and I expect it won't be very long before it will not only be easier to get castrated, but it will be easier to control side effects, although I kind of think the latter has to come first.

Re: The discomfort of others.

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:17 am
by JeffEunuch (imported)
I agree that elective castration will not become popular anytime soon. But I also agree that once the side effects become easier to handle, and given today's more relaxed attitudes towards genital mods, it'll become much more common.

My own experience as a guy with a smooth crotch has been very positive. Other guys accept it or are ecstatic to get to fondle it, especially the jewelry rings at the base of my cock where other guys would have balls.