So following up on a previous thread of if a year was long enough of a test drive on androcur before having a castration done.

I appreciate all the advice that everyone gave me, suggesting more time and patience.

But after going to see my doc regarding side effects of the drugs, and having to take a ton of tests that made me miss my flights back to LA and thus also miss the MOM I gotta a bunch of info.

My testicals have atrophied to about 1/5 their original size. No chance that they can go back to working like before, not that that is what I wanted anyway. Although everyone here has warned that taking androcur can do long term damage, my urologist was just surprised that it happened to this extent so quickly. As they say mileage may vary.

They are taking me off the androcur, and my testicals still won’t produce any testosterone. They are permanently shutdown. They are also going to continue to atrophy and become much smaller, which is kind of hard to believe, considering how small they are, I wasn’t a big guy beforehand. At which point removal is highly likely.

Then I was off to the endroconologist for even more fun test. Including bone density and like a pint of blood work and ct scans etc... we meet again next week but surprisingly he said that if I am functioning well on no t then he doesn’t see a need to give me any at this time, he said there will be plenty of time for that later if needed.

So moral of the story, test drives can sometimes become the permanent answer.

I feel very positive about everything that has happened, (so far) and I am very glad that even just mentally I thought I was doing a test drive to adjust.

I hope and pray that what I wanted turns out to also be what I got.

So I don’t know technically if I am eunuch now, because I still have them, but they will never work.

Any way thanks for letting me ramble

Its good to hear your positive out look on your situation

And as time goes on I hope you remain just as pleased with the out come

And not regret what has happened

ask your dr. what are chances of the damaged testiecals becoming cancerous

and if there is a risk factor then make your choice from there

They wouldn't even want to try and get them functioning again with HCG or Clomid? I can understand you not want it, but seems odd they wouldn't even want to try it.

*shrug*

Batman

And surely you read "after 6 mo. the effects may become permanent"!!!

kennath7 (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:05 pm Its good to hear your positive out look on your situation

And as time goes on I hope you remain just as pleased with the out come

And not regret what has happened

ask your dr. what are chances of the damaged testiecals becoming cancerous

and if there is a risk factor then make your choice from there

Regarding permanent effects of androcur. On the one hand I am envious, on the other hand I just don't like taking drugs. I still believe Crestor (cholesterol drug) has caused my audropause, but I can't find any medical evidence to support my belief. There have been studies, but they are inconclusive (or suppressed by the drug companies). Testosterone replacement therapy to mitigate negative health effects of no testosterone definitely caused my testes to shrink and get hard and numb, that's for sure. I feel like I have two artificial testicle implants in my scrotum. I've just about got the TRT dose to the point where I am in sexual limbo...... usually no sex drive, and also without loss of ability to concentrate or multi-task.

Regarding chances of testicles becoming cancerous..............

That ALONE is good enough reason for me to have them removed, and reason enough for society to permit an individual to choose to have them removed if they want to. Why wait for cancer? Why are we permitted to have our tonsils and adnoids removed but not our testicles. Why can women have hystorectomies, but men can't have castrations? It just isn't fair.

Especially hard to believe that castrations would not be permitted when it is something that the medical professionals could make extra money from.

Sure, if the testes do not need to be removed for bonified medical reasons, insurance would not pay for the procedure. Insurance doesn't pay for other non-medical necessitated body modifications like tummy tucks, face lifts, or breast implants or breast removals.

Hey Stager: yeah i got the warning, i was just surprised that the damage was to that extent so quickly.

Batman: good question, after doing more test then i thought could happen, they dont think it is worth trying, knowing that it was my use of androcur to get here in the first place.

the urologist beleives that at a certain size its not worth taking the chance if they continue to atrophy

I have posted a few times here in the past , when I first began androcur and the effects 13 months on.It's nearly 14 months now that I have been on androcur and I have not noticed anything like your effects.The biggest effects are listlessness, tiredness and the total inability to get night time erections or sexual dreams. My wife introduces sex and gets me hard without much difficulty and we have sex about 3 times a week. Note that I take 50mg androcur per day. Am I about to be in for a shock ???

i would doubt that you are in for a big surprise, but if you have been on androcur for a year there is mostly likely some long term change.

in my case i started off with very low t and already had an issue with scar tissue on my testicales. i also take 100mg a day

best of luck

dave

Hey Dave, I didn't mean anything personally, it was to drive home a point to all the guests that read these threads and take matters in their own hands with little or no knowledge as to just how dangerous these drugs can/will be. Sorry for how it sounded.

Stager:

no offense taken at all, i was just surprised that even though i expected some change it came so quick. i was just stressing how important that warning really is.

so all is good