Anyone tried this combo?

I have been off Androcur for ages now and just maintaining 1mg of finasteride per day which I found seemed to keep my sex drive a little suppressed (but not enough for calm), and seemed also to almost eliminate my morning erections (but not entirely). At least finasteride by itself is relatively safe.

Now I was away on holidays for 5 weeks with the family and just stopped taking finasteride, just too hard to chop the tablets and remember to take them, and now.... farking hell I know just how much it WAS doing. My libido and capacity for erection have returned to the point where I would say I am more virile than before I began trying to reduce my sex drive!!

Its almost as if my body has over shot the mark...I admit if does feel so good to have rock hard cock with a simple touch. alas I am up to my old tricks again and I feel more out of control than ever and this sex drive is only going to end in tears, I can actually masturbate up to 10 orgasms per day...

Sooo, I have seen a few people talk about Tamoxifen, but not very many, I think "Old man" and "HKeunich" are a few proponents. HK says that the Androcur combo was just too scarey, so I was thinking what about a low dose of finasteride and tamoxifen, both relatively low risk drugs.

Is it true old man said with Tamoxofen that you can still perform if required? I understand the mechanism behind sex drive reduction with both androcur and finasteride, but what is the mechanism with tamoxifen? I do want to be able to perform if my wife wants to but I don't want to be DRIVEN by my need to have sex, but rather let intimacy lead to it...if you know what i mean.

Is there a risk that if I achieve what I seek I will suddenly find I hate my wife?? I also felt even with ONLY taking finasteride a glimmer of depression, more a feeling of negativity than positivity, certainly not full blown depression, but this I see as a risk as well, I can't afford to end up depressed, then again a really high sex drive is also depressing, as with excessive masturbation!!!

Comments?

It's normal, when you're taking anti androgen your endocrine systeme is trying to produce more testosterone, when you stop taking anti androgen, your libido will get very high for the next 2 weeks then it will lower. I used some natural product call "Saw Palmetto" it has the same effect as finasteride, after 8 years I had to stop because of castration sides effects, my libido returned to normal for 2 weeks then I lost my libido again without taking anything. My T level is now so low, I have to take testosterone. Good luck!

My un-professional understanding (based on just a bit of Internet research) of the effects of Tamoxifen is that it is an anti-estrogen. It causes Estrogen receptors to take in Tamoxifen instead of Estrogen. It also suppresses Estrogen production in the body, similar to Androcur suppresses androgen production.

But Tamoxifen does not have the feminizing effects.

As such, the effects, from my limited understanding, is that it help replace hormone deficiency related osteoporosis. Tamoxifen also helps prevent breast development caused by Androcur, or any other anti-androgen.

Sexually, it does reduce libido for me, but not so much that I can still espond to significant amount of sexual stimulation.

Combined with the very low dose of Androcur (12.5 mg/day - quarter pill), my low dose of Tamoxifen (which I recently increased back from 5 mg to 10 mg/day - because I started feeling some soreness under the nipples) I no longer have any desire to get hard or get off. I do still enjoy intimacy. But I can oblige and function if required. That sounds pretty much like the state you wish to get to.

hkeunuch (imported) wrote: Wed May 28, 2008 10:31 pm My un-professional understanding (based on just a bit of Internet research) of the effects of Tamoxifen is that it is an anti-estrogen. It causes Estrogen receptors to take in Tamoxifen instead of Estrogen. It also suppresses Estrogen production in the body, similar to Androcur suppresses androgen production.

But Tamoxifen does not have the feminizing effects.

As such, the effects, from my limited understanding, is that it help replace hormone deficiency related osteoporosis. Tamoxifen also helps prevent breast development caused by Androcur, or any other anti-androgen.

Sexually, it does reduce libido for me, but not so much that I can still espond to significant amount of sexual stimulation.

Combined with the very low dose of Androcur (12.5 mg/day - quarter pill), my low dose of Tamoxifen (which I recently increased back from 5 mg to 10 mg/day - because I started feeling some soreness under the nipples) I no longer have any desire to get hard or get off. I do still enjoy intimacy. But I can oblige and function if required. That sounds pretty much like the state you wish to get to.

I realise this is an old thread but if you still post reguarly you might be able to answer my questions.

Basically, if you are taking a testosterone blocker (androcur) and an anti-oestrogen (Tamoxifen), how does that affect your body, mind etc. I have read in several other posts that ones body needs at least some T or E to function so by eliminating both, how does that effect someone?

I like the idea of chemical castration with minimal feminization but on the other hand, eliminating T and sex drive and developing slight breasts would not be the end of the world.

I am still very new to all this and appreciate all the help I can get!

Best Wishes