While most people are more open minded nowadays, bisexuals can still come under fire from both gay and straight people.

There's no denying that bisexuality has been a bit of a fashion statement in recent years. Let's face it, if you never go out with anyone of the same gender it won't really be questioned. But don't genuine bisexuals deserve a bit more respect than tags like “hetero-flexible” and “fence sitter” suggest?

Let's remember that the rainbow flag is supposed to be a symbol of diversity, we're not all gay and straight. If I went into my local gay club there would be a few dirty looks as I'm currently going out with someone of the opposite gender. Obviously, it's some sort of statement. It couldn't just be that I swing both ways.

There's a great deal of sexual and sexuality politics. For example, I've seen bi girls insisting they are gay and find men repulsive when they're going out with a girl. It seems some sections of the gay community are far happier to accept “properly” gay people that bisexuals. While I don't want to tar every gay person with the same brush, there are a number of people that think if you're bisexual you've just not decided yet.

Superficially, some would say bisexual people have it easier than gay people as they have the “option” of living a straight life. As if your sexuality is a lifestyle choice. It seems bizarre that a community that is generally so accepting still holds some prejudice. Why should I feel I have to apologies for not being “fully” gay?

Thankfully, many people are open minded and happy to accept you for who you are. Not every gay person is militant and believes you're letting the side down by going out with someone of the opposite gender. And many people acknowledge that sexuality can be fluid. A gay person may be attracted to someone of the opposite gender in the same way a straight person could find a spark with one particular person of the same sex. We are not just our sexuality, so let's start being inclusive and stop creating barriers.

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I agree. It is the height of hypocrisy when someone rails against discrimination based on their sexuality then immediately act in the same manner they so strongly claim to abhor.



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I agree completely. I think the reason for some of the insane hostility from the gay and lesbian community towards bisexuals is that the gays and lesbians are themselves so often the victim of irrational hate from narrow minded people, that the gays and lesbians become very much like the narrow minded people who hate them.

So, just as a narrow minded straight man might hate anyone who is not exactly like himself, the gay man or lesbian woman wants to just get revenge, and express hate to anyone who is not exactly like themselves.

A sad and simple truth about the human mind, love, the REAL love for another human being, is so difficult to find, and yet that is the best of a human being, and HATE, insane, irrational hate, the very worst of human expression, is always in abundance and so easy to kindle. Maybe that is because hate is so easy to start, sort of like a forrest fire, just one little spark and there it goes! But for a forrest to grow, takes years, centuries, like real love, it is the best, but it does not come easy for most people.

There seems to be a certain hierarchy of sexual respectability in our society.

At the top are heterosexuals. They are considered the norm.

Next are bisexual women. Most men are turned on by the idea of two women making love and most women who say they are repulsed by the idea are liars. Here is where most of the "fashion statement" bisexuality is happening.

After them comes lesbians. Somehow our society regards a love relationship between two women as, somehow, cleaner than one between two men.

Next on the totem pole are homosexual men.

And, at the bottom are bisexual men. Women don't trust them because they feel, at best, a bisexual man is an orgasmic opportunist, and at worst, gay, but won't admit it. To a straight man, a bisexual is really gay. Gay men don't trust bisexual men because they feel, at best, a bisexual man is gay, but won't admit it, and at worst, an orgasmic opportunist.

I'm sure if your bisexual you feel everyone is picking on you. I think it's the same for gays, transexuals, Transgenders, Eunuchs etc.

We, the human race, are basically a primitive bunch. We, for the most part, don't have "tribes" but we still are tribel. We relate with the people we are alike and fear people who are different.

Yes, it's all about fear. Well, and maybe comfort. But, mostly fear of the unknown, the different and after all for centuries we've been told only those in "our" church well go to heaven, all those who go to the church down the street will go to hell.

Only education and intellectual development can correct this problem.

P.S. don't try to tell a "no hormones" eunuch (i.e,; someone who doesn't want to have sex with anyone ) that you, as a bisexual (or anything else for that matter) ,have a harder time with society looking down on you. It's beening different that causes the problem not how your different,

That's my 2 cents.

Pauline.

coinflipper_21 (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:49 am There seems to be a certain hierarchy of sexual respectability in our society.

At the top are heterosexuals. They are considered the norm.

Next are bisexual women. Most men are turned on by the idea of two women making love and most women who say they are repulsed by the idea are liars. Here is where most of the "fashion statement" bisexuality is happening.

After them comes lesbians. Somehow our society regards a love relationship between two women as, somehow, cleaner than one between two men.

Next on the totem pole are homosexual men.

And, at the bottom are bisexual men. Women don't trust them because they feel, at best, a bisexual man is an orgasmic opportunist, and at worst, gay, but won't admit it. To a straight man, a bisexual is really gay. Gay men don't trust bisexual men because they feel, at best, a bisexual man is gay, but won't admit it, and at worst, an orgasmic opportunist.

I am not a 100% sure it has anything with gay men distrusting them on those grounds, many gay men are deemed "orgasmic opportunist" which I assume to mean "just after sex" and indeed some are, just as are some str8 men I am sure some bi men too. I believe the lack of acceptance for gay men comes from the fact that gay men are usually emotionally charged humans, they invest deep feelings in the ideas of love, and togetherness, and don't see a possible "future" with a bisexual man, this also enforces the attitude they are only gay for sex...since it's rarely a same sex partner they end up settling with, if they do settle. Just a thought.

As a Bisexual man it is a real issue how society views me and others like me be they male female or waht ever label you stick on your self.

All three genders Trans, bio male , bio Female are sexualy exciting to me. I have been married twice to a Bio female, Married to a Gay man, and had a very long relationship with a TG woman that only ended when cancer took her from this plane. The one thing they all have in common is this: a brillent mind and great sense of humor and being non judgemental. That is what made me love each of them in kind. All scratched the itch sexually.

However I do find Trans womwn more exciting sexualy then a bio-female or male. Maybe it's because all the best parts are all in one place. Shrug.. hell it's all good it's the person that really counts.

I agree that none of us should be judgmental of anyone else's sexuality, sexual orientation or gender orientation. And that is the key: RESPECT! There must be respect for each other.

One thing I have seen and had some personal experience with lately though is sexual enthusiasm which is out of control. I have, just this weekend past, had a bad experience with a bisexual woman who was overtly and obnoxiously throwing herself at me. She was of the opinion that because SHE was bisexual I should be as well (I am gay and a "no hormones" eunuch). This is disrespectful. I have no interest in women, and never have. I cannot understand the mentality behind a person who, once told that another is not interested, will continue to force their sexual agenda regardless! I also have a middle age STRAIGHT woman who cannot seem to take no for an answer and will not leave me alone.

This is something which has been getting worse for me lately. I am in a rather public position which inevitably has put me on the sexual radar of many women (both straight and bisexual). In the next several weeks I will be in a major TV series episode on the Sci Fi Channel. Gawd, it's only going to get worse isn't it? This is one reason I decided to come completely OUT. Hopefully women would get the message, but it hasn't seemed to work yet.

I guess I'd really like to know why it seems that so many straight and bi women are dedicated to forcing themselves on GAY men!?!?!?!?

May just have to bring the boyfriend in to sort them out LOL!

I am am who I am, and if anyone does not like this, then they can suck it. I am more than my sexuality, I am more than my gender, I am more than my race. I am a free thinking human that lives according to my own rules of conduct. I am unconcerned with the opinions of people i do not know. If they are to judge me before we meet, then let their judgement be damned.

jeff_macadams (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:59 pm May just have to bring the boyfriend in to sort them out LOL!

I am sure he could take care of it.