iBorg317 (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:56 pm What about medically created castration? I still have my testicles but due to a glandular problem they're more for decoration than anything else. My T production is not quite nothing but without any supplement (now shots after trying gels and patches) I don't register on the low end of the scale. While I don't want to be transformed into a full eunuch, if you use the definition of being ball less, the course of events has pretty much made me a balled eunuch. This group has been really helpful in helping me understand how to control my condition so that I'm livable to be around.

kristoff wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:51 pm The purpose of the forum is to address the needs of a growing number of folks who do not choose to be eunuchs necessarily, but who find themselves in that condition. Hopefully, with a forum addressing their needs, they will feel more welcome here.

We do, after all, want to address the needs of ANY one who is dealing with eunuchism, whether voluntarily, involuntarily, or merely as an adventure in fantasy, or the explorations of curiosity.

I Worship Women (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:47 pm Maybe it is because of the way society at large views things like sex and sexual things, and society at large views those it considers to be "different", society at large including doctors take a very negative view of castration and especially of voluntary castration.

If a man has chronic pain in his testicles, pain that takes away from his quality of life, especially he has dealt with it for some time, and castration surgery would end his pain. But surgeons are very reluctant to do that.

Isn't improving the patient's quality of life a legitimate medical reason for a medical or surgical procedure? If you have something like a pinched nerve or other problem causing chronic pain in another part of your body such as your arm or leg or back, and an operation would releave it completely, most surgeons would be very happy to give their patient that relief. But if that chronic pain is in a man's testicles, or he has other legitimate reasons for needing or seeking castration, we have to let him keep on hurting because society is so uptight about sex, and men's parts.

If a woman has chronic female problems she can get medical or surgical treatment that takes care of her problem and improves her quality of life, but a man with a problem in his testicles can't. I think it is not only about how society at large views sex and sex things, but also how our still largely patriarchal male dominated cultures and society views men and males and the "destruction" of a man's manhood.

Doctors take an oath "to first do no harm." And they take that oath very seriously and also have to worry about malpractice lawsuits and medical ethics. But things like leaving a man in chronic pain when a fairly simple surgical operation would releave it and improve his quality of life does not sound to me like doing no harm.