I have been asked by a few people, where to get a "good grade" of Calcium Chloride and Ethyl Alcohol? It seems that many are (rightly) cautious with injecting themselves with either a drink made for the local pub or food stuffs of uncertain purity.

I personally used analytic grade chemicals, so as pure and infection free as physically possible (less risk...)

Happy to share where to get the items from if anyone sends me a message

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slinkysue (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:26 am I have been asked by a few people, where to get a "good grade" of Calcium Chloride and Ethyl Alcohol? It seems that many are (rightly) cautious with injecting themselves with either a drink made for the local pub or food stuffs of uncertain purity.

I personally used analytic grade chemicals, so as pure and infection free as physically possible (less risk...)

Happy to share where to get the items from if anyone sends me a message SS

I bought my calcium chloride from a hobby cheese making store, so it was food grade and anyway, the PH is so high I doubt that any bugs could survive in it and the same goes for alcohol, I used vodka with a 40% by volume alcohol content and all went well for me. Testicles damaged beyond redemption and were removed on March 15th this year. So pleased I found this thread.

Its not just the bugs that you need to consider. Have you asked your self exactly how strong the Calcium Chloride is? Food grade is typically 32 - 42%, the permitted impurities are as follows:

Chemical CaCl2

pH Slightly alkaline

Impurities (on 100% CaCl2 basis)

Alkali Chlorides < 0.1% by weight

Magnesium (as MgCl2) < 0.1% by weight

Other Impurities (not H2O) < 1.0% by weight

Specifications

Identification To pass test

Assay To pass test

Alkalinity (as CaOH2) not > 0.03% by weight

Fluoride (as F) not >40 mg/kg*

Heavy Metals (as Pb) not >20 mg/kg*

Lead (Pb) not > 4 mg/kg*

Magnesium and Alkali Salts

(MgCl2)

not > 5.0% by weight*

Its a very wide specification so how do you know that you are not injecting something that is going to affect something much more than you anticipate?

With regards bacteria - it can survive in 40% by volume Vodka, that's why anti-bacterial hand wash in a hospital has to be a minimum of 60%. I agree that bacteria in Vodka is not likely, but it is still possible. The chemical impurities would worry me more than the infection risk.

Forget about any bacterial infection and just look at the chemical spec, that alone should make anyone in their right mind cautious. Its a little bit like playing Russian Roulette.

slinkysue (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:14 am Its not just the bugs that you need to consider. Have you asked your self exactly how strong the Calcium Chloride is? Food grade is typically 32 - 42%, the permitted impurities are as follows:

Its a very wide specification so how do you know that you are not injecting something that is going to affect something much more than you anticipate?

Forget about any bacterial infection and just look at the chemical spec, that alone should make anyone in their right mind cautious. Its a little bit like playing Russian Roulette.

I believe you are being overly cautious. The Calcium Chloride that I injected was 50% concentration and my first injection was on December 24 last year, followed by a second one 10 days later and I had no other side effects other than swelling and pain which are to be expected. There are many other guys on this thread who have followed the same regimen as I did also with no adverse effects. All of us as far as I know have had only the desired side effect i.e the destruction of our testicles. I know several of us who have followed this method including me have been successfully surgically castrated.

I am really happy for finding this thread and for the help that it has given me. Next steps, removal of empty scrotum and a partial penectomy.

Perhaps I am being overly cautious, but ask yourself a question - would you inject tap water, without treating it in some way? Calcium Chloride solution for food typically uses tap water as the dilutant, as does Vodka.

So are you saying the Calcium Chloride or alcohol (in food grade or drinkable vodka) will kill ALL bacteria (if so - why do hospitals insist that hand cleaning alcohol gels contain at least 60% Alcohol by volume)?

Based on what you have said, I cant understand why hospitals don't save themselves a fortune and inject patients with water straight from the tap.

All that said, you seem to forget the potential in food grade products to introduce into your body some nasty chemicals (that you neither wanted or planned on getting)

Analytical grade chemicals worked well for me, I knew exactly what I was getting into my body. In my mind I had removed the unknown bullet from the gun in the game of Russian Roulette.

I also knew for certain that the strength of Calcium Chloride injected was exact;y what I intended.

slinkysue (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:28 pm Perhaps I am being overly cautious, but ask yourself a question - would you inject tap water, without treating it in some way? Calcium Chloride solution for food typically uses tap water as the dilutant, as does Vodka.

So are you saying the Calcium Chloride or alcohol (in food grade or drinkable vodka) will kill ALL bacteria (if so - why do hospitals insist that hand cleaning alcohol gels contain at least 60% Alcohol by volume)?

Based on what you have said, I cant understand why hospitals don't save themselves a fortune and inject patients with water straight from the tap.

All that said, you seem to forget the potential in food grade products to introduce into your body some nasty chemicals (that you neither wanted or planned on getting)

Analytical grade chemicals worked well for me, I knew exactly what I was getting into my body. In my mind I had removed the unknown bullet from the gun in the game of Russian Roulette.

I also knew for certain that the strength of Calcium Chloride injected was exact;y what I intended.

No one is arguing that analytical grade isn't better. It certainly is.

However, you have to consider a few other things. Most of the people here doing this have been risking their lives already. For example, before I had Calcium Chloride injected I had injected everything from hand-sanitizer (scented and all), vinegar, drinking alcohol, saline, toothpaste, etc. Furthermore, I had had all sorts of serious cuts (pools of blood splurting out almost uncontrollably). I had also taken all sorts of weird pills to try chemical castration. Lastly I had lived a lifestyle where I had been with over 300 prostitutes.

So for people like me, and I imagine several others here, getting a little bit of extra magnesium is pretty minor compared to other risks we've taken.

Secondly, infection and tolerance is a personal thing. I can honestly say I've never got an infection in my life. Even when I get a cut, I don't get the redness or pus that other people seem to get. I never get sick. I don't scar either. I don't have allergies. So for me, I'm not a sensitive physiology. For others it might be quite different. I'm quite comfortable and confident that I don't need to worry much about sterility. For ME. I can't speak for anyone else. I'm sure some bacteria did get injected, but my body would have had no trouble with it. Others might die. So it is a personal decision.

I think most people have been doing fine with food grade. Note that food grade isn't just tap water. Food grade means it has also been prepared to keep. That can mean ultraviolet treatment, pasteurization, preservatives, or natural suppression based on the salinity or acidity. Is a jar of pickles sanitary? Well, sort of yes -- it certainly isn't blooming with bacteria or fungus..even though it is of course far from medical or analytic definition of sanitary.

But yes, everyone should try to get analytic grade.

@SlinkySue, From personal experience I have injected food grade calcium chloride. I mixed it with 96.5% vodka and have done it twice. Other than the usual side effects of swelling and soreness for a few days I have suffered no adverse affects.

As SplitDik has already mentioned there are many here, still posting who have done the same.

We are all made different and clearly SplitDik is blessed with a very strong constitution.

There are risks associated with any form of injection apart from infection you can puncture a vein, nerve..... It is a risky business. Those of us who have opted for this particular journey having evaluated the risks and gone ahead with knowledge.

At one point, I read this thread from start to finish and you can see my posts on this trip as indeed many others.

It is always best to get medical grade, but if you can't there is a food grade alternative that many have used successfully.

High Alcohol and Medical grade is the way to go.

The final decision is the individuals. Your body may react very differently to mine or SplitDik's.

All we are doing is sharing our particular journey. I was very cynical about this process when SplitDik started it, but as I saw more and more pioneers try it and my own high alcohol injections 16 in total were only working very slowly I took the plunge (!) and now both boys are dead with a T level of 46.

It works. But that is just me. One of the risks of this journey is that we all drive different cars that perform differently.

You have to consider where you are, what you really want and how much you are prepared to risk. Injection of alcohol and calcium chloride is probably the safest route for anyone determined to kill their balls.

It would be stupid to minimise the risks or to encourage anyone to do this.

Roger on that sparkey!

r1honour (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:04 pm In the meantime, I've been toying with the idea of doing a smallish re-injection of the left testicle, targeting the area where I still have sensation.

Best regards to all.

R.H.

I recently injected into one of the areas of soft tissue left and reduced my T further from about 96 to 46. I think one of the mistake we make is not to inject evenly or to use a long needle and inject through the whole testicle by gradually withdrawing and injecting to cover the whole area.

I tended to focus injections in the the centre using insulin needles that are short. In hindsight it would have been better to inject evenly either in stages or with a long needle.

jcat (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 11, 2014 12:16 am I recently injected into one of the areas of soft tissue left and reduced my T further from about 96 to 46. I think one of the mistake we make is not to inject evenly or to use a long needle and inject through the whole testicle by gradually withdrawing and injecting to cover the whole area.

I tended to focus injections in the the centre using insulin needles that are short. In hindsight it would have been better to inject evenly either in stages or with a long needle.

Hello jcat,

I agree entirely.

I've sourced additional CaCL and 1.5" 25 gauge needles for the upcoming task.

Since the right nut seems to be a goner, it's out of the picture this time.

The left still has quite a bit of sensation along one side and the texture is significantly more supple in that area.

In my original attempt, I used only CaCL, mixed with a tiny amount of benzyl alcohol to sterilize it. Before anyone clobbers me again: benzyl alcohol is added to pure water to make

r1honour (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:08 am bacteriostatic water, which is used to reconstitute

powdered medications for injection.

This time I'll be using a small quantity of 95 proof Everclear instead.

My original, and ongoing objective, is not like many who have made this journey. I wasn't intending to lose my balls entirely, just reduce their volume.

That, of course, has happened and now it's time to even the boys up.

R.H.

Indeed this is risky business and the best advice has been been stated in this thread many times - Don't do it. There is very likely a difference is quality between all the various food grade CaCl solutions available, and some would no doubt be safer to use than others, if you insist on doing this. Most of us (maybe all?) that have used the food grade have been lucky so far. It's a little soon for me to provide my experience, but time will tell.

Play it safe and use the highest quality ingredients you can find. Better yet, don't do it all.