Useful thread for someone contemplating a "test drive" on meds then the cut. I have a question concerning genital atrophy. Has there been any and if so, how much? Also are orgasms, if still possible, dry or is there still ejaculate?

SexlessC23 (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:37 am Useful thread for someone contemplating a "test drive" on meds then the cut. I have a question concerning genital atrophy. Has there been any and if so, how much? Also are orgasms, if still possible, dry or is there still ejaculate?

Yes I had penis shrinkage. Hard to say just how much for I never get fully hard so no way to really measure it. It may be 1/3 or so smaller. In the normal state it is much smaller then before. The sack has shrunken greatly. I have not had an orgasm in over 5 years. That is very unusual for most still get them if only a weak ones.

Thanks for the info. Very useful.

Although chemically castrate, I prefer surgical. I would like to go to a local Urologist and get it done, but need a cause. I can push orchialgia, but want to go in with a swollen testicle.

Anyone know how to create a short term swelling of a testicle (not into injections)?

Thanks

PLEASE don't screw it up for men who really have Orchialgia. It was difficult enough to get treated.

Instead go to Kimmel or talk to one of the doctors like Reed, Bowers, or Alter and tell them truthfully what you want. You might be asked to get a mental health screening (But TRUST ME) you will if you come in with claims of Orchialgia anyway.

Today is my 7th anniversary of my eunuch life. I took my first androcu pill today 7 years ago today. It was the beginning of a new life. The life I never expected to have. I am fine with all the physical changes. None of them seem to be as much of a change as many report. I may have not developed stronge male characteristics as most guys did, so less to loose.

The only physical one that I am very concerned about is the osteoporosis. Getting that in little over 2 years was a surprise. I did take

bobbie (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:01 am more then enough calcium and vitamin D.

I do take Fosamax.

The greatest changes were emotional ones. I developed a need to have people be be friends with. For me it was a big thing for I had none before. The past few years I have developed some very deep friendships. I still do not understand friendships but I do like them.

Almost every one I chatted with in the chat room 7 years ago has moved on. Just about all my support group is gone. Seems like a few more are still around in the message board that are still active. Sort of makes me think just how much the EA keeps changing from year to year. Thanks to all the ones that have supported me in the more recent years.

Bobbie congratulations on 7 years. I am glad you need friends now because many count you as a friend. Thank you for all you do for the MoM's and all the great advice you share with others. I hope to see you this August.

Bobbie

congrats on 7 years I know the joy you feel

4 year update on my physical castration. Thought I would list some of the changes in the past 4 years and the 6 ½ years of testosterone loss. I was on androcur for 2 ½ years at a test run for the real thing. That gave me a real good idea on just what the real thing was going to be. I had my blood test taken by my doctor before I started androcur as part of my normal physical. The number was well into the normal reading for a normal male. When you factor in the age very normal. Year into the androcur my blood test showed that I was not fully shut down. I increased the androcur by 50mg. Had another test and was at castration levels. Remained there till my castration. I did have a test just before the castration to make sure and it was real castration levels. So I went for it.

Being at castration levels I noticed no change other then noting between my legs banging around. All of the hot flashes, mood swings, and so on all happened long ago. I was mentally ready for this day for such a long time. Thought I had every thought, reason and action worked out on how I would feel once done. When the scalpel makes its cut you do have a very strange sensation run through your body. The final reality sets in and there is no turning back. I have talked about the effects with friends who have gone through the same thing. The deed was done and I had my best friends at my side for comfort and reassurance. That is maybe one of the most important things to have near you at that time. You are a different person. Your friends are accepting you in your new life right from the start. People talk about being born again. Well for me that day was my rebirth as a new person. I was a EUNUCH.

Healing went about what most describe. I still have my sack. It is very much smaller now. Would have to stretch it now to put balls back in it.

Weight gain. Around age 20 I was about 150. Before castration around 165. Now around 167. The muscle was changed to fat. Now I am sure a lot has to do to the castration. My life also changed during the same time. I went from a active work life to a retirement life style. I am sure inactivity helped the muscle loss.

Face hair. Very little as a teen. Never a full beard in my adult life. Now a light beard again. Can go 2 days without shaving and not looking to bad.

Body hair Chest had little before and none now. Legs hair is more like when I was a teen not much and light in color.

Head hair Had a start of receding hair line in the front a few years before starting any drugs. The drugs and castration has not stopped the progress of the hair loss. Hair is still turning gray one hair at a time.

Muscle loss was expected and not wanted. I did not do anything to stop it either. I keep telling myself that I do need to work out some.

Osteoporosis I knew that weak bones is a factor in older women when their hormones reduce. Did not realize just how much the male hormone also effects the bones. It is just not one of the things that are talked about. I talked my doctor into giving me a bone scan before my castration for a base line. Wanted to have a record of where my bones were. He gave me the results. I all ready have bone loss. Not a little but a lot. He put me on medication (Fosamax) to help reverse the bone loss. Think I am due for a retest the next check up. Osteoporosis is the bad disease that cripples so many older people.

Nails The nails have become a real problem for me. They have become thin and soft. They tare real easy. They snag on something and I lose the end of the nail. Been on gelatin for years.

Breast had no changes.

The physical changes are sort of generic. Most will experience most of the same effects to some degree. The mental changes were the unpredictable effects. No two can really share all the same effects when it comes to the brain. What drives us is different. Why we wanted castration is different. Even if we say the same words on the reason, the reality it is different on the mental level.

Some of my changes were never expected and I cannot understand how they are all connected.

I was always a loner. Never had friends. I was OK with this. After my hormones went down I started to have a need to have friends. I even fall in love.

Emotions were mostly suppressed in my before life. A sign of a loner. In some areas now in my life, I do have emotions. Some are very strong and I cannot control. That is very frustrating. I got lost when my logic fails me.

In my general life I am as aggressive as I have always been. At least as far as I can tell.

Think I am as dominate on as before.

I am still the organizer that I have always been.

I am just as shy being around people. Would rather be on the side lines. But if it is a meeting that I am an active participant. I will be vocal and very present. I switch from back stage to front stage.

Think I am a little less reactive in my actions then before. Some may be to age. Some could be to a change from a stressful life style to a layback one. May take a few more seconds before I make a decision.

I still try to always be objective in my actions. While I do have more emotions, I do try to suppress them.

I am still very logical in thinking. Base very little on emotions. Emotions have been suppressed most of my life.

It is too bad that no one in her

bobbie (imported) wrote: Sun May 28, 2006 4:00 pm e really knew me before I started chemical castration. I

chatted with all the early ones many times. Going back to BBoy. I talked but did not really let too much of my life be known. Much of that is still today. So no one in here can say they saw any change in me before chemical castration.

So I think that many items that people seek to change with castration may not happen. I did not list all of my emotions ,but a sample. The Eunuch calm that many talk about did not happen in me like in others. Some parts it did. Think it has a lot to do of who you were before castration. I knew just what castration would be like for I was a chemically for years before.

Am I happy YES

Would I do it again YES

Is it right for most people NO NO NO It is right for a very few people. I have meet in person many eunuch’s chatted with far more. Far too many have gone back on male hormones to some degree. The effects of castration were more than they could handle. Some were medical problems. Getting osteoporosis in your 20’s is not good. Loosing strength or endurance caused problems at work without testosterone. Some the emotional changes were just too much. Most went on a lower dose of hormones and that seemed to get the desired effect. Castration is a one way road.

Oh this is my 1000th post

Bobby,

Thanks for your insightful update. My results 3-1/2 years as a chemical eunuch mirror your results almost exactly. However, I think I am much less agressive than when I had more T and a slight balding spot filled in -- both good things.

Don