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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:39 pm
by TooMuchT (imported)
My reading of the Parsemus Foundation literature seems to indicate that you should buy pharmaceutical grade powder and mix it (interestingly they say the best results have been obtained mixing with 95% FOOD grade ethanol ie Everclear). The sterile mixing will be hard for the average person to do, and would not be cost effective to have that done for small batches. They do not rule out mixing yourself, but they are also aiming to make the technique available for use in poorer countries that don't have access to such facilities. And I suspect what
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:48 am the calcium chloride doesn't
kill, the 85% ethanol will!

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 5:58 pm
by kristoff
All I care to say at this point is remember (that idiot) Scotty. Nearly killed himself injecting heavy doses of lactic acid before anyone knew what it would do, how much, etc. Slow dowm, chill out. Life is short - be here for all of it, OK?

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:30 am
by Something (imported)
The swelling has gone down today and they don't hurt as much. Not much else to say really... lol

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:30 am
by SplitDik (imported)
Something, good to hear. Pretty much exactly as expected -- swelling is for three days.

Regarding some of the other recent posts. Scotty (mentioned above) was mostly a victim of impatience -- he injected way more than anyone prudently would do, and it was acid which obviously did exactly what acid would be expected to do (painfully eat away from the inside, ulcerate the scrotum and enter the pelvis, etc.) So for those trying calcium chloride (or also alcohol) please don't go crazy and overdo it. There is nothing lost with doing a lesser dose in terms of amount or concentration. In particular with the calcium chloride the results apparently scale almost perfectly with amount, so in fact you might actually achieve the best result with a lesser amount -- like a half castration that knocks down testosterone levels but not entirely eliminating them to retain some health benefit (many people who get surgically castrated end up taking some testosterone again).

Regarding the sterility and purity concerns I think all of you are overthinking it. Of course you should be careful, but here are my thoughts. First of all, salt itself is quite antiseptic -- this is obvious because salted meat and vegetables are preserved (pickles, beef jerky, etc.) which means that the bacterial growth is knocked back significantly. Secondly, bacteria needs some sort of food to grow on and a mixture of salt and distilled water simply won't have any. It is not like apple juice (the comparison someone made above) because apple juice is pure food for bacteria. High concentration salt water is simply already a bad environment for bacteria to grow in.

Furthermore, you guys are making too much of the different grades of it. Food grade implies that it doesn't have harmful bacteria. Now it is true that bacteria that is not harmful to eat can be harmful to inject, but usually food grade things are fully pasturized or otherwise sterilized simply because bacteria is bad in food for both spoilage and danger. They're not going to let random bacteria grow in something sold for cheesemaking.

Third, in terms of purity, if you choose to mix your own, then any calcium chloride bought for science / chemistry purposes is going to be very pure (that's the point of chemistry supplies, otherwise it can wreck experiments or even create dangerous unwanted reactions) So chemistry grade calcium chloride mixed with distilled water is going to be quite pure. The danger would be if you used calcium chloride that is sold for melting ice on sidewalks as obviously there would be no need to make that pure or sterile.

Furthermore, you can sterilize it yourself by boiling it. Just read up on the temperatures required to ensure sterilization. Alternatively you can mix it with high proof ethanol. As mentioned by others, some of the calcium chloride injection studies included trying it mixed with ethanol and this was successful.

Regarding sterilizing by boiling, here is a reference: http://www.enotes.com/sterilization-ref ... rilization

Another form of heat sterilization is boiling. Drinking water can be sterilized with respect to potentially harmful microorganisms such as Escherichia coli by heating the water to a temperature of 212°F (100°C) for five minutes. However, the dormant cyst form of the protozoan Giardia lamblia that can be present in drinking water, can survive this period of boiling. To ensure complete sterility, the 212°F (100°C) temperature must be maintained for 30 minutes.

It is up to you to judge, but personally I think that if you took food grade calcium chloried (or chemistry grade mixed with distilled water) then boiled it for 30 minutes, then mixed it half and half with alcohol you should be pretty confident that it will be sterile.

In any case, as others have said, we have Something now bravely embarked on the experiment so lets all have patience and see how it turns out. I know many people are desperately obsessed with castration, but waiting six weeks isn't too much to ask and we should have a definitive answer.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:36 am
by SplitDik (imported)
Something (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:30 am The swelling has gone down today and they don't hurt as much. Not much else to say really... lol

By the way, I guess I may be prying, but can you share your actual feelings about all this? I mean do you regret doing it? Happy or hopeful? Are you adjusting mentally to the idea that you might actually be castrated or on your way to achieving that goal? Is it funny to be going about your day and realize that you've got this secret (that you've got dying balls)?

Partly I'm just curious, but also hope that this truly is something that will (if successful) get you into a state of well-being.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:36 am
by lust-ocd (imported)
Hi Something! What type of calcium chloride did you use?

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:42 am
by SplitDik (imported)
Sorry for the multiple posts, but I also heard from the guy who injected on Nov. 5.

Nov. 20

Hi, sorry it has been a while since I last wrote, but frankly this is a slow process not worth commenting on day by day.

It is two weeks already, although it seems like it has been much longer. Not because it is an ordeal or anything bad, but simply because it really seems natural to me already -- the idea that I may be actually castrated.

I can't wait to get a couple weeks further in to see where this is really going. Right now my testicles seem to be fairly normal sized, but their consistency is very abnormal -- hard. The hardness is interesting though, as it isn't just a swollen hardness, rather I wouldn't say they're swollen at all but rather just hard. In terms of sensation, they are not very sensitive but there is still feeling if I flick them or squeeze hard.

I still seem to have most of my energy, but one interesting thing is that my nipples are no longer sensitive at all. They just feel like the rest of my body, not at all the sensitive, tingly way they used to be.

Interestingly, I happened to have my yearly physical yesterday. I have a female doctor who is a younger Indian lady. Anyway, I mentioned that I thought my testicles were feeling sort of hard, and she felt them and was pretty concerned. She told me she wanted me to contact my urologist and get an ultrasound right away. I don't think I'll do that now, but it will be interesting if my balls really shrink in the coming weeks, in which case I might go to the urologist and see what he thinks.

I'll write again next week.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:30 am
by Something (imported)
I'm about as hopeful for success as you can get with something like this. I keep thinking back to doing it, and I think I've developed a phobia of needles now so hopefully I won't need to do it again (seriously, I had a box of ten, used two for practise on an orange and I can't even look at the others)! XD. That's not because I regret it, it's just because I really didn't like actually doing it. I was speaking with someone online when I did it actually, not about that, just about a mysterious injection my doctor told me to do. I mean, not at the same second, obviously. I'm just excited to see what happens now. Anyway, the grade I used... I'm not sure, the bottle was marked as sterile, but also "for cheesemaking", so probably food grade, but I don't know why food grade would be sterile.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:31 am
by lust-ocd (imported)
Did this guy inject food grade, Splitdik?

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:51 am
by lust-ocd (imported)
tjstill (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2012 1:52 pm I am a little confused on a fairly major point on this technique. I do not know how the CaCl works. I have read the article on dog neutering using zinc salts, this has been around a long time. From what I have read the idea to inject CaCl came originaly from this. The zinc salts in dogs kills off the sperm within the testicle it also stops further sperm production, the tubes wherein this occurs clog up and collaspe with scar tissue formation. The key issue is that the testical still functions to make testosterone. the endocine production is unaffected.

It is not clear to me what the CaCl does exactly. Is it the same mode of operation as the zinc salts? Does it only produce sterility and not eunuchoid characteristics? There seems to have been a very quick take up of people trying this or considering it. I am not sure that even if it works it will produce the eunuchoid characterisitics that many people may hope for. Does anyone have a clear understaning of how it works and what it is doing when injected. Or have I missed a link somewhere that I should read. Thanks

Calicium chloride definately lowers testosterone, rather than just causing sterilization, according to this parmesus foundation video -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?=1&v=UfLF7Rf_3Iw