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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:43 am
by new2this (imported)
I have wondered the same - Once the lab get's a look, what actually is reported back?
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:29 pm
by Uncle Flo (imported)
They will not find the calcium if they have no reason to look for it. --FLO--
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:18 am
by stellastercore (imported)
I have as of 20 min ago completed my 3ed and most likely final injection. This time with 1.5cc of calcium chloride mixed with .5cc of lidicane 10%. This injection I felt nearly no pain in ether of the testicles. So far results are rather good I have managed to stop taking my antiandrogen as of 2 weeks ago with very few ill effects this 3ed hit should annihilate what ever is left.
I am 100% sure it works but may take more then one hit to do the trick and lidocane helps make it easier if you can acquire it. I got mine off ebay from Russia.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:54 am
by apricot_ (imported)
@stellastercore I'm a bit torn on that. I've read that it makes for a decent analgesic, but the results are less effective so you have to do it more than once. On the other hand, I already have lidocaine but I couldn't find any decent pain killers for something like this.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:48 pm
by apricot_ (imported)
Hi, guys! I hope all of you are doing well. This seems like an extremely risky experiment so I'm glad its worked out fairly well for most of you. I've never injected my testicles with a toxin, but believe it or not I've spent the past month or so trying to work up the courage to self-castrate using lidocaine and a series of surgical tools. I just wanted to make sure I was prepared to die should anything go wrong.
I don't necessarily want to do any of this, but I've run into a pretty fair amount of anxiety that I want to end now before it gets any worse. Here are the supplies I'm using:
1: Using 2 oz Bottle of Calcium Chloride (30-37)% sold by New England Cheesemaking Supply Company
2: 375ml 95% 190 Proof Grain Alchohol from Everclear
I'm basically taking Aleve for it, which I suspect will be virtually useless. It can't hurt though. I'm injecting 0.5 cc worth of two parts CaCl, and one part alcohol. I will let you know as soon as I've made the injection how this works out for me.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:50 am
by GenChick (imported)
After two injections I end up with lesions in both testes and small lump (like a ridge, more distinct on the right) on each testicle. My low Testosterone level puzzles my urologist. Sending me urgently for CAT Scan (lower abdominal) and talks about possible right testicle removal. I think I can persuade her two remove both… Should I worry about CAT Scan?
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:16 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
apricot_ ,Aleve is a poor choice for countering pain. If you can get it Tramadol may help but I would suggest Percocet if you have it. GenChick, CAT scan should only show dense masses in testicle(s), not anything more specific. --FLO--
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 3:12 pm
by apricot_ (imported)
I couldn't find any reliable sources online that sold tramadol. From the information that I found, it's become a controlled substance. Does anyone have any experience doing this without any pain killers?
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:45 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
apricot_ (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:48 pm
Hi, guys! I hope all of you are doing well. This seems like an extremely risky experiment so I'm glad its worked out fairly well for most of you. I've never injected my testicles with a toxin, but believe it or not I've spent the past month or so trying to work up the courage to self-castrate using lidocaine and a series of surgical tools. I just wanted to make sure I was prepared to die should anything go wrong.
I don't necessarily want to do any of this, but I've run into a pretty fair amount of anxiety that I want to end now before it gets any worse. Here are the supplies I'm using:
1: Using 2 oz Bottle of Calcium Chloride (30-37)% sold by New England Cheesemaking Supply Company
2: 375ml 95% 190 Proof Grain Alchohol from Everclear
I'm basically taking Aleve for it, which I suspect will be virtually useless. It can't hurt though. I'm injecting 0.5 cc worth of two parts CaCl, and one part alcohol. I will let you know as soon as I've made the injection how this works out for me.
First of all, please consider just doing it properly by going to Dr. Arnkoff. Yes it might cost $5,000 overall, but if castration is so important in your life you should be able to save up for it.
However, I do know like many others here that once you get to the point of considering self castration that there is decent chance you'll eventually do it. Regarding the calcium chloride, it is relatively safe because calcium is one of the most common elements in the body -- it isn't like alcohol or such that needs to be metabolized. It is even used (at 10% concentration) injected purposefully into peoples bloodstream for cases of extreme low calcium levels. However, it can cause local necrosis if injected into tissue or skin (which is actually what we're trying to achieve) but it is key to keep it contained to the actual testicle. You don't want it leaking into the scrotum, and also don't want it getting carried into the abdomen.
Regarding the pain, it is certainly intense but it seems to consistently last almost exactly three days and then pretty much nothing. In fact often the testicles become totally sense-less beyond that. It is a very localized kicked in the balls kind of pain, so I'm not sure that any general painkiller is going to help all that much. It is possible that using injectible xylocaine would help as a local anesthesia, and I think possibly some guys here have done that. You'd have to repeat the administration of xylocaine a few times a day though, so would be a "pain" (no pun intended).
Overall, there will be pain. But note that surgical castration, even doctor administered, is going to have you laid up for several days unable to walk. So it ultimately becomes a bit of just the price you have to pay.
I understand your interest in progressing slowly, but the 0.5cc might be the wrong move. You'll get most of the pain and none of the gain. The effect is VERY dose dependent. Re-read some of the veterinary literature I've posted earlier in the thread. Basically a 0.5cc in adult human testicle won't do more than about 10% reduction in testicle function. I certainly don't want you to overdo it, but just wanted to let you know that you might want to take a more effective first step if you're going to have to go through the pain part.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:53 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
They won't CAT scan the testicle. They will CAT scan your pelvis to see if the "cancer" has spread there. It means they suspect cancer. For you this is a good thing, as it means they will proceed to remove the testicles as that is the primary diagnostic procedure for confirming it. (This still seems stupid to me that they have to remove something to confirm it is diseased, I mean what's the point really. I wonder how many guys lose a healthy testicle just to to check.)
EDIT: Maybe you meant you were worried about unnecessary radiation exposure from the CAT scan. That is a valid concern as it is proven that people with frequent CAT scans are at increased risk of developing cancers. I personally would tell your doctor that you'd prefer to do the CAT scan only if the testicles turn out to actually have cancer. From what I've read about CAT scans and testicle cancer there is no reason to do it before you've found cancer in the testicles. Plus this approach would prompt them to be more decisive about removing the testicles. I think you should be firm and ask to defer any unnecessary radiation exposure until they've confirmed cancer in the testicles. I actually do this at my dentist -- they always want to take multiple X-rays every cleaning visit, but I only let them do it ever few visits. All this stuff seems to be statistical and cumulative so why risk a disease just for a bit more frequent look?