My entire time on the archive here, I've never seen a single message from the 'Staff' who run this site that encouraged anyone to go the DIY route. They've uniformly always recommended caution, talking to Doctors, and to never do anything permanent to yourself without being certain you know the consequences.

They do a great job policing the site and warning people of the consequences of various acts.

I would testify on their behalf (for whatever that's worth)

Thank you.

The only thing I have to say about DIY is if you are going to DIY, do it right outside the ER doors so you can fall over and trigger the auto-doors and roll in.

OH, that, and just DON'T, OK?!

Then again, I have seen posts in this thread that, to me, because I have performed EATI, seem not plausable or likely.

Just because someone says they did this, or that, and it worked, it could be a baited trap that will cause some person to unwittingly try something that might be harmful. The baiter may not know if it would be harmful or not because they have not tried it; their intent may be to be mean or malicious.

As with anything, beware, doubtful, don't trust anyone, be that one person, or dozens or hundreds of people. Just because the herd is stampeding in one direction does not mean it is not about to go over a cliff.

Just because it is spoken, or is in print, no matter WHO makes the claim, no matter how many make the claim, does not mean it is true. End user, beware!

As someone who read (back then) all ten or twelve pages of this thread (Thanks, Danielle!!) then did several weeks of research (anatomy, biology, clinical studies - PubMed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed) is a fantastic resource) and who cautiously took the risk (all the responsibility was MINE alone) I can say I'm much happier.

Thank you Paolo for speaking out in this thread.

Thank you to everyone who has reminded us to follow sterile practices.

Thank you to everyone who has reminded us to err on the side of caution.

Thank you to everyone who has described their stories of success.

Extra special thanks to the few who have experienced near disaster and described it here and elsewhere at the EA.

If you desire more information, use either PubMed's advanced search (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term ... 0injection) or Google to search for percutaneous ethanol injection (http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws ... +injection). Another search term is ethanol sclerotherapy (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term ... erotherapy). It's primarily for the ablation (destruction) of cancerous tissues in liver tumors. But it's also a sclerosing agent, dessicating moist tissues and shutting them down.

Be safe, be sterile, and BE RESPONSIBLE for your own actions.

I wish you all success in your desires.

I could easily imagine a teenager or college aged person getting on here. Thinking how cool it would be to post about their own "experience" and how FAST it happened or how GREAT it is to be 'nutless' to entice others into doing it to themselves....and it would be nothing more than a big joke to them..

Don't know how often it happens, but I would guess that it does.

Well, since we're discussing the dangers of this castration method and making sure that people understand that this method of castration will cause permanent damage to the testicles, ultimately making the person a eunuch for life, I think we should also remind people about the consequences of castration.

Once you have effectively killed your testicles, they will atrophy or waste away. I've read several articles which indicate that atrophied testicles might increase the risk of cancer. http://www.thehealthpages.com/articles/ar-testi.html You should use this risk factor to urge your urologist to remove your dead testicles.

Once you have killed your testicles, becoming a eunuch for life, you will notice change. Physical changes after a period of time: Lack of erections, lack of arousal, diminished libido, eunuch calm, fatique. Your penis will shrink, some less some more than others, partly due to not having nocturnal erections. If you're not careful, you will gain weight (you might want to change your diet or eating habits), your hips may expand, your breasts will grow (some less, some more than others). If you're bald, your hair will probably not grow back and your overall body hair might diminish or become lighter in appearance or color. Sherry Lania said she started to have dental issues a few months after castration, which may or may not be from castration, but she suspected it was. Osteoporosis or bone loss. You should get a bone density test six months to a year after castration. Your brain may even change physically. http://www.longevity-and-antiaging-secr ... ction.html Lastly, I've read and I've noticed personally that a lack of testosterone can cause facial changes.

Mental Emotional changes: Possible deep depression, mental acuity may increase or diminish (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-mental-acuity.htm)

Some eunuchs state that they're able to focus more on whatever they're doing because they're not thinking about sex. You will become more emotional and cry more easily, you will see women differently and not as sex objects.

These are all real consequences of castration and once you become a eunuch you can expect many of these changes to occur. Prepare yourself and anticipate these changes. Once you're castrated, your life will never be the same. You will be a different person and you will learn to adapt.

Hash (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:39 am Well, since we're discussing the dangers of this castration method and making sure that people understand that this method of castration will cause permanent damage to the testicles, ultimately making the person a eunuch for life, I think we should also remind people about the consequences of castration.

Once you have effectively killed your testicles, they will atrophy or waste away. I've read several articles which indicate that atrophied testicles might increase the risk of cancer. http://www.thehealthpages.com/articles/ar-testi.html You should use this risk factor to urge your urologist to remove your dead testicles.

Once you have killed your testicles, becoming a eunuch for life, you will notice change. Physical changes after a period of time: Lack of erections, lack of arousal, diminished libido, eunuch calm, fatique. Your penis will shrink, some less some more than others, partly due to not having nocturnal erections. If you're not careful, you will gain weight (you might want to change your diet or eating habits), your hips may expand, your breasts will grow (some less, some more than others). If you're bald, your hair will probably not grow back and your overall body hair might diminish or become lighter in appearance or color. Sherry Lania said she started to have dental issues a few months after castration, which may or may not be from castration, but she suspected it was. Osteoporosis or bone loss. You should get a bone density test six months to a year after castration. Your brain may even change physically. http://www.longevity-and-antiaging-secr ... ction.html Lastly, I've read and I've noticed personally that a lack of testosterone can cause facial changes.

Mental Emotional changes: Possible deep depression, mental acuity may increase or diminish (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-mental-acuity.htm)

Some eunuchs state that they're able to focus more on whatever they're doing because they're not thinking about sex. You will become more emotional and cry more easily, you will see women differently and not as sex objects.

These are all real consequences of castration and once you become a eunuch you can expect many of these changes to occur. Prepare yourself and anticipate these changes. Once you're castrated, your life will never be the same. You will be a different person and you will learn to adapt.

You know, that message has about a 25% hope, 25% promise, and 50% dread mix, I'm looking to combat the 50% with ERT

Also, Poked the right one for .5cc

And I also removed my video that I had posted earlier, I don't want people to come blaming me for ruining their lives by watching me.

Batman (imported) wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:44 pm I could easily imagine a teenager or college aged person getting on here. Thinking how cool it would be to post about their own "experience" and how FAST it happened or how GREAT it is to be 'nutless' to entice others into doing it to themselves....and it would be nothing more than a big joke to them..

Don't know how often it happens, but I would guess that it does.

That's how I feel. At least there has been ample disclaimer and warning.

Teenagers seem to try lots of things with either ignoring warnings, or not knowing of the dangers. But in today's internet world they discover a lot and do a lot so it will either be from a post here, there, or from a tweet or twat. I still wish nobody could see postings unless they login with a password, mainly because the public can find postings via web searches and go directly to a posting without going through the welcome/warning screen.

It would not be right, even impossible, to edit all posts for clarity and accuracy. It does fall upon the responsible members of the board to report to the moderators postings that seem as though they might violate terms of use. (Just where are those?)

After making a post, it would be nice if the person who made the post changes their mind or realizes an error could go back and delete their own post or edit it. Posts can be edited but it seems that after some period of time that is no longer possible.

But back on topic; from my own personal experience, once the sex drive was put asunder, I was relieved, glad, happy. I experienced this briefly following a stint with Siterone. It has only been recently following EATI that I at last feel some significant changes that can only be with a drastic actual reduction in testosterone (as opposed to a chemical suppression of testosterone).

Without a sex drive I am beginning to have an understanding of interpersonal relations and understanding that are not tainted with sexual over/under tones. I don't feel sexual tension or sexual frustration. Sure, the feeling of climax and sexual relief was good. But there was so much bad baggage that came with the libido the rest of the time I am now on a much more even keel without a sex drive.

At one point I was worried that I would have as much or more sexual frustration by not being able to have sex. But it turned out to be quite the opposite. I don't give a damn that I can not be aroused or perform or have sexual relief. I remember the good and bad effects testosterone had on me, and while there are trade offs, now that testosterone has been drastically reduced, I much prefer now than then. But that was my life long goal. If anybody tinkers with their body just wondering what it would be like, and achieves permanent loss of testosterone, they might very well be in a different state of mind completely - like totally frustrated, anxious, and angry that they are a eunuch.

Think of castration, or not having testosterone, like amputation or blindness. You might wonder what it is like to be a quadraplegic or totally blind, but there is no experimenting with it for there is no going back. If you just wonder what it is like to be a eunuch, just ramp up your fantasies and pretend like hell, but don't do anything chemically or physical.

OK, I've had the flu all week but yesterday was my day to inject so I gave it a go.

I got about .25 cc's into the right before I stopped. I was just to sick from the flu to continue.

I hope to at least try the left today.

Telling you all that this could be dangerous seems to fall on deaf ears.

There are castration drugs that you can get from your doctor to reduce the T, it has an added benefit that your doctor can monitor your condition.

Self induced castration is just not smart, you might be successful but its not smart, you are playing with your life.

Having said that I also know all to well the enter need to be castrated. I know, I tried to do it myself, I failed and was lucky that I did not kill myself in the process.

Do this the right way, with your doctor.

Good luck to you all,

River