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Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:38 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
I have just received word that the entire Great Lakes system is under Full Gale warnings. Wind is expected to be from 35 knots steady in sheltered areas up to 55 knots in open water. The USCG has ordered all vessels to shelter harbors. The most wind I was exposed to on a boat was 75 to 85 MPH We ran for shelter, it was an amazing experience. --FLO--

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:30 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Another just cozy day here. :)

Send some of that fresh water please.

Remember, if YOU drain that unsalted water to the ocean, YOU contribute to the

Day After Tomorrow scenario.

I do not understand how those Right Coast Liberals can preach global warming

yet continue NOT to manage their fresh water run off.

Moi

Special access coastal property owners for their sea walls too.

Not MY taxes.

If Captain Bligh had been around, the Bounty would have safely ridden out the storm.

Poor seamanship methinks

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:31 pm
by Dave (imported)
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moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:30 pm If Captain Bligh had been around, the Bounty would have safely ridden out the storm.

Poor seamanship methinks

Go soak your head in a bucket of water.

I'll bet you never set foot on a Tall Ship.

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:34 pm
by Dave (imported)
>>More Huffington Post Update

>>

>>Gale force winds on the Great Lakes. That's huge, considering that the great lakes are roughly 900 miles away from the coastline.

>>

Hurricane-Nor'easter Sandy Still On Track To Deliver Punishing Blow. It's tempting to look at a Category 1 hurricane and think "no big deal -- we've seen worse." But it's a combination of factors, meteorological, geographical and astronomical, that will make Sandy (much) more than a minor inconvenience from today into Tuesday. Latest model guidance suggests that winds won't subside below tropical storm force in New York City until Wednesday morning. This is a long-duration, high-impact storm. Based on 12z guidance (above) peak winds are forecast to come this afternoon and evening, some (slight) easing of winds by late evening as Sandy comes ashore near Atlantic City. Important: the storm is actually stronger, deeper, with lower pressure than predicted by the models yesterday at this time. Peak sustained winds have increased from 75 mph early Sunday to 90 mph (now), with gusts over 100 mph.

Monday Midday Headlines:

At last report Sandy was packing 90 mph winds with gusts over 100 mph - a central pressure of 27.85", even deeper/stronger than some computer models were predicting yesterday.

The next 12-24 hours will be critical; Sandy comes ashore tonight, but two surges of water, magnified by high tide and a full moon, will sweep ashore - later this morning and midday, a second, slightly higher surge predicted for late evening. That is risk #1. Winds will be a factor, bringing down tree limbs and subsequently power lines, plunging millions (potentially) into darkness. People need to be prepared and ready for an extended period of time without power. Inland flooding will be another problem, especially from Philadelphia and Harrisburg to Washington D.C, Baltimore, Annapolis and the Delmarva Peninsula. If you've been flooded by a previous hurricane or tropical storm you'll probably see significant flooding from Sandy.

Conditions will slowly improve Tuesday, but tropical storm force winds may not die down until a Wednesday time frame.

Landfall. The 4 km. NAM model shows landfall around 11 pm tonight near Atlantic City, with the strongest wind field 60-110 miles north of the center of low pressure, passing right over Long Island and metro New York City. Map above is for wind speeds at 900 mb, about 1,500 feet aloft, showing gusts approaching 100 mph near Southampton, Long Island - some of this high-velocity air will work down to the ground. Expect sustained winds of 65-85 mph in New York, with gusts in the 90-95 mph range, with the peak of the storm coming tonight. Model guidance: Weather Bell.

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:46 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:27 am Early this morning, Sandy sunk the replica of the HMS Bounty which was used for the 1962 film, off the coast of North Carolina. 14 members of the crew were rescued from a life raft, 2 crew members are still unaccounted for.

Maybe this is a stupid thing to say, I have been known to spout stupid from time to time, but if I was on a big sailing ship on today's oceans, I would have some electronics to tell me about weather conditions, right?

So if you see the biggest storm that has ever been recorded in the history of man heading for the east coast of the USA why would you stick around? this ship could have made for the coast or gone north east to out run it, I think this is one of those cases where the people on the ship decided it couldn't be that bad.

Like I said, I could be wrong but I don't think so, its not like they did not know this storm was coming, so were they fools?

River

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 4:15 pm
by Dave (imported)
According to the news, the hurricane just made landfall near Ocean City and Cape May

-- lowest pressure ever to hit NJ

-- highest flood surge ever recorded on Manhattan

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:44 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:31 pm Go soak your head in a bucket of water.

I'll bet you never set foot on a Tall Ship.

I was a Sea Explorer Scout for four years at one of the largest bases for sailing,

Newport Beach, California. And there were tall ships visiting. I did set foot on a tall ship! & !

Nyah :nutsycuck Nyah 📏

Remember the feats of Captain Bligh and his mentor, Captain Cook.

So please, go soak your presumptive head in a bucket of briny water.

In the day of these tall ships, the captains had no advance weather satellite forecast.

Something broke, or Captain Cook getting stuck on the Great Barrier Reef, you had to make do, or die.

I maintain the loss of this ship was outstanding bad seamanship compared to that of Cook and Bligh.

I appreciate first hand it is not only the direction the wind is pushing the ship, but the current too.

Moi

arg, pass the rum

and hang Dave by his thumbs after his briny soak 💋 🤗

Sometimes, I know of where I upload. Don'tchyaknow.

I just received a most gratifying and unexpected PM that some here

are finally getting, "populist", who didn't upon my earlier times.

I knew I was a populist since High School.

America's best times are Percolate Up Times.

I believe the proper move is to set a foresail and a sea anchor, seal up water tight as can be and ride it out

with pumps fully manned. That's what I would say if attending my lieutenants exam like Horatio Hornblower.

Does anyone know otherwise? Maybe no sea anchor. A foresail to maintain the ships angle of attack on the storm.

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:55 pm
by moi621 (imported)
I was always told, if the nation ever needed an enema,

they would pass the tube through New Jersey.

This storm could be a "national enema".

P.C. 🍑👋 Moi

Dave, the radar map shows red zones over PittLand.

How does it look out your window? Are there lights?

Bob3 Check In.

Bob3 Check In.

Any other members getting stormed?

Does anyone else enjoy getting appropriately dressed and going for a storm walk.

Cars in Manhattan half under water. Their "Sea Wall" is under water. And I bet they want the

<doom>Federals <Darth Vadar breath sounds> to build them a better one.

The Rich Folk of the O.C. do and filed papers to be first in line while they dam
moi621 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:34 pm n the <doom> Federals <Darth Vadar breath sounds>
too.

It is a nice cozy day in the O.C. ;)

Moi

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:03 pm
by cheetaking243 (imported)
Unfortunately, the worst-case scenario with storm surge is playing out across the entire northeast. The storm surge at Battery Park, NYC was predicted to crest at 11 feet. It didn't. It crested at 13.88 feet about 20 minutes ago, surpassing all forecasts by over 25%. Reports are that much of lower Manhattan is completely underwater, from the New York Stock Exchange to the World Trade Center, with flooding being reported in the basements of countless buildings. And unfortunately, it has indeed been reported that the flood waters have overtopped the entrances to the New York subways. There was a report of 4 feet of water in a subway tunnel under the East River, and the water is still coming in.

Weather stations all the way from Connecticut to Virginia are reporting their highest storm tides on record, including pretty much the entire New Jersey shore. The Jersey coastline will likely be nearly unrecognizable by morning. And I expect that dawn will reveal that this has been an absolute disaster. There aren't likely to be many destroyed houses, but the sheer amount of flood damage, power outages, and moderate wind damage will be completely unprecedented.

Re: There's Always The Weather

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:05 pm
by Paolo
Now all we need is magnitude 10+ quake on the Mid-Atlantic ridge, or perhaps a 9 right under DC.