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Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:34 am
by Riverwind (imported)
bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:43 pm
I only pray that the storm won't cause a power outage. We had two last year, and it was hell. Now, I need two machines to sleep - an oxygen concentrator and a compressor (humidifier) feeding a mask covering the tube in my throat. With no power, I might have to go to the hospital, so I take this very seriously.
As much as we disagree on another thread, I truly hope you keep power. I would not be able to sleep without my Cpap so I do understand, wish you the best.
River
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 3:38 am
by xobdb123 (imported)
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:50 am
by Dave (imported)
>>Huffington Post updated their tracking posts
>>Damn those tracks are going to hit the main camps of Penn State and that is not to far north and east of me.
>>BTW - I'm not in danger because I'm high up on a hill.
>>It will be rain and north of me by about 30 miles is so much higher than me (I'm 1000 feet above sea level and they are 3000 feet aove sea level) that it might result in snow and lots of snow.
>>
Update -- 09:30am EST 10/27/2012
Threat Increases for New Jersey, Metro New York, Long Island, Boston and coastal New England.
Alerts Broadcaster Update: Don't be misled into thinking the threat has eased because "Sandy" is a tropical storm. All the models show a rapidly re-intensifying storm tonight and Sunday as an approaching surge of Canadian air energizes the system; a dramatic contrast in barometric pressure producing hurricane-force winds into Monday over a broad, 200-250 mile wide arc approaching coastal Delaware, New Jersey and far southern New England. Sandy is still a force to be reckoned with, still a potentially historic storm from Cape May and Atlantic City northward to New York City and bedroom communities of coastal Long Island.
Latest models are strongly suggesting a heightened risk for New York City, Long Island, Providence, Cape Cod and the islands (Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard). The northward wobble I talked about earlier today continues, and there is now a 70-75% risk that Sandy will pass just south of New York City Monday morning.
The worst-case scenario for New York is a track just south of the city, with sustained hurricane-force southeast winds, capable of funneling water into New York Harbor and right up the Hudson and East Rivers. That scenario now looks considerably more likely than it did 12-24 hours ago. A more northward track also increases the threat for Cape Cod, the islands (Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard) and even metro Boston, which will see a strong, sustained fetch of 60-90 mph winds Monday.
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:07 am
by Paolo
Would it help if they waited for the storm to center over DC, then detonate a nuclear bomb to disperse it? The storm, that is?
You'd need what, 500 million megatons for starters?
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:32 am
by cheetaking243 (imported)
Hurricane Sandy just strengthened by 11 mb overnight. Last night at 11, its pressure was 969 mb, but now it has dropped down to 958 mb as of the latest advisory. In addition to that, the wind field has massively expanded. Last night, hurricane-force winds were extending a maximum of 70 miles from the center of the storm. Now hurricane-force winds (75+ mph) are extending up to 105 miles from the center, with tropical storm force winds (40+ mph) up to 450 miles from the center. This is already now one of the largest hurricanes ever recorded in terms of gale diameter, nearly 800 miles wide, and it hasn't even collided with the cold front yet, the element that is supposed to make it absolutely explode.
bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:43 pm
I only pray that the storm won't cause a power outage. We had two last year, and it was hell. Now, I need two machines to sleep - an oxygen concentrator and a compressor (humidifier) feeding a mask covering the tube in my throat. With no power, I might have to go to the hospital, so I take this very seriously.
Unfortunately, it very likely will. Most trees are still in full-leaf and thus more susceptible to wind damage, and there are potentially going to be hurricane-force wind gusts over the entire northeast in addition to 10 inches or more of rain in certain areas. So widespread power outages are to be expected. Some could last for over a week or more, since it will be such a huge area affected, and the storm won't be moving anywhere for several days once it comes onshore.
Here's a graphic from The Weather Channel:
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A6LIFQ8CMAEIOBc.jpg
So it depends where you live. New Jersey, Delaware, and western Pennsylvania are the most likely to be hit with widespread outages. I can't express enough how serious this storm has the potential to be. This one has the potential to be even worse than Hurricane Irene, because it will be bigger and will be moving much more slowly as it comes onshore. It will almost certainly be even worse than the "Perfect Storm" of 1991, because its pressure has the potential to be nearly 20 mb lower. And unlike the Perfect Storm, this one isn't going to stay offshore.
EVERYONE in the northeast needs to be ready for this. It's going to be very nasty, and has the potential to be a disaster of mammoth proportions if everything plays out like
We could be seeing hurricane-force winds covering an area of 300 miles or more by the time it makes landfall.
I've been watching hurricanes diligently since I was 10 years old, and I've never seen a storm setup like this before.
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:27 am
by Riverwind (imported)
WOW, this has FEMA written all over it, from the sounds of it its time to leave and head west.
NOTE to BOB,
Get out now, don't take the chance that the power will go out, its just not worth it. Bob I know you never agree with me but this time please get out.
Here this morning two squirrels were ice skating on the bird bath and I finally gave in and put socks and long pants on.
River
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:00 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:27 am
WOW, this has FEMA written all over it, from the sounds of it its time to leave and head west.
NOTE to BOB,
Get out now, don't take the chance that the power will go out, its just not worth it. Bob I know you never agree with me but this time please get out.
Here this morning two squirrels were ice skating on the bird bath and I finally gave in and put socks and long pants on.
River
I would rather Bob3 Ex-BFF have the emergency power units at home
rather then share germs at some emergency relief center. Even if the units only last a few hours,
he could keep several plugged in for the moment of need.
Remember, Bob3 Ex-BFF is an immunologic cripple due to recent over whelming infection. Immune paralysis happens. That's why one gets repeatedly sick if they don't do it right the first time.
Moi
Only an Ex-BFF is F
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:14 pm
by Dave (imported)
>>From The Huffington Post
Update -- 06:40pm EST Saturday, 10/27/2012
Alerts Broadcaster Update: Hurricane Sandy is still on track to become a record storm for much of the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast; as many as 50-75 million Americans may be impacted by high winds, coastal flooding and extensive inland flooding by Tuesday. A few headlines:
* Conditions deteriorate during the day Sunday, from south to north across the Mid-Atlantic region. Accelerate preparations to secure facilities and safeguard staff early in the day Sunday.
* The storm peaks Monday and Monday night; conditions slowly improve by Tuesday afternoon as the center of Sandy moves inland and slowly dissipates.
* New York City officials are discussing evacuation plans and even closing the subways at the height of the storm (Monday). "SLOSH" simulations are predicting as much as 6-9 feet of water pushing across Long Island Sound into parts of Queens and Brooklyn. A storm surge coming up New York Harbor may flood Lower Manhattan and Battery Park. Areas within 5 feet of sea level are threatened. My hunch: La Guardia Airport and JFK may see runway inundation Monday, with as much as 1-3 feet of standing water on some runways.
* NBC in New York reports that MTA officials are considering shutting down subways, bridges and commuter rails by 7 pm Sunday. No final decision has been made as of 5 pm eastern time, but I anticipate that this will, in fact, happen. Don't wait until the last minute.
* A 4-8 foot storm surge is possible over coastal New Jersey and the southern coastline of Long Island. Communities that have a history of severe flooding during hurricanes and severe Nor'easters can expect widespread flooding from Sandy.
* Many coastal highways within 3-4 feet of sea level will be closed by Sunday night. Again, if you plan to evacuate away from the coast/sea level, the time to do it is now, or Sunday morning at the latest.
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:23 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Thinking of "The Day After Tomorrow" and the flood scenes.
Like the cruise ship floating down NYC. Are we there yet?
Who else besides Bob3 Ex-BFF is in the target area?
Moi
Left Coast Fan
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:55 pm
by cheetaking243 (imported)
Just FYI, Hurricane Irene's storm tide, which reached approximately 9.5', came within 8"-12" of flooding the New York subway system. Sandy is currently forecast to have a storm tide of 10.5'. In other words, New York could very well have a potential nightmare on their hands. If the subway floods, it might become unusable for up to a month, which could result in economic losses of up to $50 billion. Dr. Jeff Masters of Wunderground.com is currently giving about a 30% chance that this happens. New York is completely unprepared for such a storm if it hits in exactly the right spot, at the lunar high tide, which some models are indeed predicting. It could flood the subways and submerge a significant portion of New York's completely-underground electrical system. Again, this is no joke. New York got VERY lucky with Irene. Storm surge with that storm stopped within a foot of overtopping the subway entrances along the Hudson river, and they didn't have to throw the switch to shut off lower Manhattan's electricity. If current forecasts pan out, though, Sandy very well might do what Irene didn't. Although Sandy's winds are only rated a 2 out of 6 on NOAA's potential-damage scale, its storm surge is currently rated a 5.2 out of 6. For comparison, Hurricane Ike, which flattened the Galveston barrier islands, was rated a 5.6/6 on this same scale.