Zebedeee (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:05 am I think you’ll find that is an email address and not a web link.

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That is the email address given by the Psychology Department of Northwestern U. It didn't work for me but...one would think, to include an email address and encourage persons to use it for further information, it would function. I only put down what there without comment as to its viability. Take it up with them.

PJ

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:15 am Ever met a surgeon, well, okay, OBGYN but they face far more happy endings, who isn't arrogant? There's an old quote that is spot on here. "Yea tho I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil as I'm the meanest mutha fucka in the valley." That's a surgeon going in to help maybe save a life, maybe restoring something that seemed lost. You cannot be a surgeon unless you have the absolute precision of your own beliefs. I cannot stand there, my double glasses on, looking up and seeming to say..."Uh, Kelly retractor or go for it, I'm taking votes, people". You may also have noticed that, as a group, surgeons tend to be clique-ish,.,.,.just like the people who run this site. When you have worked hard and long to build something then, certainly, if you see a yahoo of whom it might be believed is out for no good, then it's time to get the settlers in a circle and repel anyone who has a parallax view.

I'm an old man, do not take the patient load I once did. Had myself castrated so I could better concentrate on my work, restoring people to health, often to life. So, yep, you got it, I'm arrogant and all the other bits of vitriol. But bad manners? Did I spit on your shoe? You do not know me personally and I don't know you, love to meet you, exchange ideas and thoughts and, I promise you, I'll listen very carefully to what we might say to one another.

As to the survey, my sole concern is that it's junk science and somehow got slipped over the transom hoping it would appear without out notice. Didn't work. For whatever I may think, read the other comments written by people with some education; No University would allow anything under their brand out with the clanging errors that are contained within this. For arrogance, I suggest this is a very young, very callow young man letting his ego having a lovely time...but his ego dragged him around a dark corner and now he's facing his own lack of perfection as pointed out by many.

Again, we don't know each other and that's rather too sad, given our rugged individualism, we could probably storm any thing and take it down.

Thank You, Sir, for your comments. They are much appreciated.

Petr-Johan

I have met a few surgeons and I found them to be intelligent and charming, but I of course have no idea what they are like to work with!

I mention bad manners not because you have been rude to me, you haven’t, but because I think your questioning of Kevin Hsu’s credentials without any evidence is a bit below the belt. You will notice that others are polite enough not to question your credentials.

I respect your opinions and agree with points you have raised in other threads (notably the risks associated with self medicating), but I just think that on this occasion you are taking it a little too far and making it too personal.

If your fears turn out to be correct, then fair enough. But I think it makes sense to at least give Kevin a chance.

This informationwas got from the

JesusA (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 7:42 am North

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:15 am western University Department of Psychology,

the area of study Hzu claims to be in. I verified that thisinformation was open to the public and that any and all parts of itwere permissible to be reprinted, discussed, disseminated in any waythe view may wish. To put it bluntly, this was done to allow anyoneto see all the studies currently underway at NWU in specificdepartments. As you go through, you will note that there areadjunctive references available for "further reading". Idid NOT purs

ue those as I felt the corpus provided the informationfrom which to draw further enquiries.

Well, so longas you can guarantee that it's information free for publicconsumption and that it's OK to repost it here – without providinga link or any other proof of that in the repost – then I supposeit's all ri

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:15 am ght to just take your word for it.

You refer, Sir, towhat I have done as a "stunt". If you choose to see it thatway, then that's your opinion. I have never been less than candid asto my opinion

s of the study and, frankly of the person who purportsto have put it together.

Yes, there wasdissatisfaction ex

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:15 am pressed by other members with the survey.

Perhaps thereasons that this is a group aging out lie in the seeds or your owninvective; However much we may wish the young to join us, there isclearly a clique which is inviolate to any person who comes withcandor and genuine-ness. These persons look down, gently and withsome annoyance but giving the appearance of verisimilitude when thereis none. Those who run this sight, do not really want ideas,concepts, or, horrors, but must seem to be benevolent and, at leastmoderately incl

usive. It's the gang of five versus the unlettered.

It's not oftenthat I run across a word that I have to look up. Congratulations onyour use of the word “invective”. You're about to see some moreof it. I would guess that in this “group of 5”, you mean me,Kristoff, Talula, Uncle Flo, and Jesus. In explanation of yourobservation of our being inviolate, that would be because we:

Keep the site up and running, based on donations only, and out-of pocket-expense

Do this without a pay area, or by running annoying ads

Maintain the site on a daily basis, including trying to keep it free of trolls, spam, etc.

Put in a lot of time for no compensation, as this entire site (stories included) is more of a labor of love, with the belief that it is important to have this information out ther

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:15 am e for others of a like mind to find.

I have just lostmy whole country, Zuid Afrika, to peoples who who feel they knowbetter what to do and the answer to their dilemma is to toss out and,ultimate, summarily murder, those who oppose them. I do not knowanyone connected with this, no attempt was made to offer friendshipor even an appreciation for my work and....unless you're sitting inthis overly fattened troika, you'll always be an outsider and thereis the problem; When the young come, and they do, they find atolerant amusement but no interest, no effort to sustain their desireto stay and see what they can learn and/or offer. By your standards,and comments, i

t would seem I wasted six years in Grad school and tenyears in Med school.

Please pointout, and link to, posts made here which are talking about youralleged wasted time in Med school. I should probably point out, thatyou are not the first person who has come onto the forums and claimedto be a medical doctor. I don't know if you are, and I don't care ifyou are. Over the years, numerous posts have been pulled claimingjust that. There's a big difference in our allowing posts such as “Idid this, and it worked for me with no complications.” versussomething like “I'm a doctor, so you need to do this.” Oneexample is the thread about alcohol injections, with the notice atthe beginning that we don't recommend it and that it can bedangerous. I don't want your credentials or identity verified, andwould never ask for them. That's revealing too much. So if you arefor real, that's great! Work on that attitude, though. I've never meta doctor that I liked. I'm beginning to think there's a class inmedical school for personality. Bad ones, at that. It must be

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:15 am an easyclass to get high marks in.

I do not apologizefor my actions as, you will concede, it's more than anyone else didapart from pat K

evin on the head and suggest that, well, he's trying.

Yes, he'sTRYING. He has an interest. He offered. What is it about thi

PetJohan (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:15 am s thatyou don't seem to understand?

True. He's tryingalright and he

Zebedeee (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 am tries my patience with his ill conceived, worded andstructured survey. One last question; Who here knew him and agreed totake and publish the survey? Did Northwestern University make thisrequest or was it simply Kevin knowing someone and shell

acking theminto believing what he'd done had validity?

So, again, youresort to slamming Kevin. As the poster, zebedeee points

out: Youreducation does you credit, unfortunately your arrogance and badmanners let you down. I have found this forum to be nothing otherthan friendly and welcoming, and the administrators to be fair andvery tolerant of different views and new members opinions. You arebehaving like a troll, and it is not your job to try to chase offanyone who takes an academic interest in this community.

Yes, you AREbehaving like a troll. We've been dealing with those for about 20years now, and you're about to find out just how long a troll will beindulged before being shown the door.

So, instead oftrolling, or pseudo-trolling this forum, what are you doing about thematter?

Are you doinganything to offer safe, medically sound genital alterations/removals?Are you working on a 'good' survey to post, to use to launch your ownstudy? Are you doing a study already? If you're a doctor, would youperform (or refer someone to a colleague) and/or counsel a patientwho asked about castration? I hear that Dr. Arnkoff in Michigan, USA,is making a pile of money. One might want to look into that. Are youdoing anything at all to make things easier for the “powers thatbe”, namely, the DSM writers and those who make the rules thatgovern treatment, in regards to male-to-eunuch matters of gender?

If you are,then GREAT! Tell us about them. Tell us about them, instead ofposting:

“Look at me!”

“This surveysucks!”

“Kevin is anidiot.”

“The Staff ofthis forum are all members of an overly fattened, invective troika.”For the laymen, we're all a bunch of self-important assholes thatlook down on forum users like something we just found on the bottomof our shoes.

You alsomention offers of friendship and appreciation of your work.Friendship based on what? Disruption of the forum, and continuing toflame a poster/researcher, after being told to stop? And what work?What is this 'work' that you have done, and where we can we see it?What have you done here in the three months and 53 posts that you'vebeen registered?

As far ascomparing this site to what is going on in South Afrika, don't evengo there, pal.

While it is, no doubt, tragic, it's also apolitical topic, and therefore not going to be discussed here. If youreally feel that this site is run by people comparable to thoserunning your home country, then perhaps it's time for you to leave.

Well those are some impressive credentials, and I guess they give the right to be arrogant…

But I think that you are abusing the privilege!



Anyway, it’s time for bed said Zebedeee…

Boing!

LeatherPup (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:42 pm The data collected from half your questionnaire has absolutely no value since it only applies to people with testicles wanting to be a woman or sexual fantasies about being castrated with no valid choices for any non-fantasy non-transsexual data other than aborting the questionnaire completely and dumping their data. People who actually have no testicles have no valid choices on most of the questions. Your published results will be skewed so badly they won't be able to be taken very seriously. It actually reminded me of the trolling we see here so often. Sorry, but that's how I see it.

Elsewhere, Paolo feels I'm a troll because I vigorously, as a Medical Doctor, and for other reasons, oppose study. I'm told to 'clean up my act' or I'll be booted out. And then he says he has no use for medical doctors after I provided two pages of my credentials, something no one else here has done.

Thanks for semi-seeing what I see in the problems of this survey. PJ

Yeah, I've played with you long enough, pal.

Bye bye...

Addition: Post with personal information and other horn-blowing and self-gratifying content removed.

I done it, it was too long and redundant.

I have done the survey, I didn't fill out the replies requiring text as I found the questions too open ended. I felt my reply could change depending on the day!! They were the worst part of the survey for me. I feel that a multiple choice approach is better. Even if it requires a few more questions, the character traits are better elucidated by this method rather than asking question that require text. It is better to gather the information from the respondent so they unwittingly reveal their character rather than give them the chance to write out answers. They may answer more truthfully rather than putting what they feel they would be expected to put.

As soon as you state you have academic goals then any survey and it results must stand up to peer review. For any conclusion to be able to withstand this process the survey must meet certain criteria in its methods. With the benefit of hindsight maybe Kevin will see he has tried to use a one size fits all survey for gathering information. If he decided to rework it I would be happy to fill in a new one. Certainly by stating his academic goals he has incurred the wrath of the self appointed guardians of academic excellence. Unfortunately rather than being offered constructive advice or critique in a friendly and helpful way (from someone who may actually have been able to help should they have chosen to) he was merely lambasted for perceived incompetence.

It would be interesting to see a new survey constructed with some help from people who understand what is needed to get creditable results that can withstand close scrutiny by those responsible for correct peer review.

Did it but it was long and redundant. I’m sure there was a reason for the redundancy, but they need to break them up into several shorter focused ones.

On a survey like this one, the redundancies are put in to catch fantasy players. Such as, "At what age did you first become interested in castration?"

Repeat the question, get 2 different answers, and the entry is invalid.