mrt (imported) wrote: Sun May 17, 2009 8:38 am Well like the obscure Beatles song you know my name now look up the number!

Its unfortunate but there are mean and evil people around that take pleasure in making others miserable. Your exactly right you don't have to give them ANY power to do that. Personally I think revenge is always a good plan. Humm... lets see... Maybe put her on a few mailing lists. Get her some sample subscriptions to some (what kind?) magazines to let her know what its like to be different and see how open minded her little group of Nazi friends are.

Or just get her name and number and tell insurance people that she really wants some!

Of course fighting fire with fire just brings you down to her level. Maybe HR can suggest a course in "understanding" followed by a warning and then a trip to the unemployment line.

- MrT

Mrt T,

You are quite right. Although I really do not view this woman as evil. I cannot because I do not believe she is.

She is ignorant, close-minded, manipulative and mean-spirited.

I like your revenge ideas.

As I had an unusual childhood, I'm not even familiar with most of the well-known Beatles songs, let alone the obscure ones. My work schedule is starting to ease up and by next weekend I fully expect to not have to work at all. I would like to speak with you soon, my friend. You have been very supportive and I treasure that

EricaAnn (imported) wrote: Mon May 18, 2009 9:11 am . I also miss seeing you and MrsT.

Hugs,

Danya

Hi Dayna,

There is one thing that this plant will never run short of and that is ignorance!

As we have discussed before, you cannot allow this person's problem to become yours and to allow her to affect your life or well being.

Some people prefer to live their lives in ignorance and refuse to accept those things that they cannot understand.

You are and have demonstrated that you are a strong woman. Please do not allow yourself or ever feel like a second class person. In many ways you are a stronger person than myself. In that situation, I would have felt an over welling desire to walk up to her and call her out to her face as the ignorant bitch that she is, but that's just me. It must be the Chicago Italian in me.

Please, never feel that you are a burden to me. Call me my sister when you are

down. I will always and forever be here for you.

Hi Erica Ann,

I so wanted to call you Friday evening but I did not because I thought you would be out enjoying the evening.

Part of what happened with my coworker is that she requested to move to a different spot because I talked about sex with her. I haven't had sex in the entire time she's been employed at my company. There's nothing to discuss, nor do I make jokes in the office about sex. She, on the other hand, has informed me how her husband brags about how quickly he can get her pregnant. I was the first person she told she was pregnant again this year, weeks before she told anyone else. She has shared intimate details of her pregnancy, its problems, her moods, details of childbirth, etc. with me.

I have mentioned GRS to her and the expense. She also knows I'm taking estrogen. These things were discussed in the mandatory training for employees from my division. I'm not certain that she even listened in on that. She was out on maternity leave when that meeting was held.

I think she has ambivalent feelings and cannot reconcile these. She's told me before that I am one of the few people in the office she genuinely likes.

MrT wrote me that Einstein said the one thing in the universe that is truly infinite is stupidity.

Part of the reason this affected me so strongly was tie-ins to emotional issues I had worked through as that other person I used to be. Like being assaulted and nearly killed when my ex-wife and I were trying to help people. And then feeling helpless against my attackers.

I'm particularly attracted to the Chicago Italian in you. I've told you how I am not that way, but I thoroughly enjoy seeing this in you. You are a terrific woman and friend, Erica. I am so fortunate to have connected with you and, at last in February, had time to spend time with you.

Please also know, my sister, that you can call me if ever you have a need. I am always here for you, too.

Hugs,

Danya

Hi Danya!

Already the Romans knew that about people who behave strange:

Stultorum Infinitus Est Numerus

they said, meaning the mainiacs are without numbers!

Greetings

John

John (imported) wrote: Mon May 18, 2009 12:49 pm Hi Danya!

Already the Romans knew that about people who behave strange:

Stultorum Infinitus Est Numerus

they said, meaning the mainiacs are without numbers!

Greetings

John

Danya (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:56 pm Hi John,

It's good to hear from you

again. As you know, I was worried about you, not having heard from you in awhile.

I'm tempted to post that Latin phrase on my cubicle wall.

Hugs,

Danya

I don't have much time to write this evening. I'm busy preparing from my one-year anniversary party Tuesday evening. This is the first anniversary of me, Danya, the day I became a new person at the office.

I'm starting to feel very angry about what happened at work. This is a good thing, but also potentially dangerous. I'm considering writing a formal letter, diplomatically phrased, to Human Resources explaining my side of things.

I have no wish to get anyone in trouble. On the other hand, I am concerned about not having my side of the story fully heard and in the record. These are my points and concerns, someone of which I've already mentioned:

1. I never talk about sex at work. There's nothing to discuss, it's not part of my experience.

2. My moving coworker, though, has discussed part of her sex life and pregnancies, in intimate detail.

3. At least parts of management are confusing sex and gender identity-related discussions. When I have spoken about the latter, it's specifically about who I am at my core.

4. I understand how sex and gender identity are conflated in some people's minds. Nor is GRS specifically about sex, it's about one's feeling comfortable in his or her own body. This shows a lack of proper training among members of a company that is actively pushing for greater diversity and understanding.

5. I have no problem if some coworkers are uncomfortable with the subject of gender identity. I do not need to discuss this with them and I have no desire to make anyone uncomfortable. I regret that this has happened.

6. Nonetheless, I feel there is the danger of my feeling more isolated at the office because a few people decide they cannot sit near me simply because I am transgender/transsexual. I cannot imagine a person's color being used as the basis of a move request, at least not one that would be given credence.

Finally feeling angry, instead of using my reason to say everyone has acted so calmly about this I should, too, has enabled me to feel a lot better.

I just played sections of Chopin's Ballade #4 in F-minor on my piano. Perhaps I interpreted these passages a little more passionately than usual. When I play like this, it's a sure sign I am in a good mood.

I'm still a bit tense about going to the office tomorrow.

Despite my coworker greeting me, in August last year, as 'Hi Freak', I managed to put that aside. I did not let it get in the way of our working relationship nor did I allow it to get in the way of what I foolishy thought was a growing friendship.

I am also considering pointing out, as a member of the Diversity team, that transgender people are among the most discriminated against persons in American society.

I am considering including this in a letter to HR. I will have a confidential discussion with a friend in HR before I put anything in writing.

John (imported) wrote: Mon May 18, 2009 12:49 pm Hi Danya!

Already the Romans knew that about people who behave strange:

Stultorum Infinitus Est Numerus

they said, meaning the mainiacs are without numbers!

John

The subject of the sentence is numerus which is modified by the genitive plural stultorum The number (or count) of fools est is Infinitus a nominative singular subject complement (or if you will, predicate adjective) infinite; Infinite is the number of fools or The number of fools is infinite.

Also, as the philosopher James Douglas Morrison noted, "People are Strange"; they behave strangely.

gareth19 (imported) wrote: Mon May 18, 2009 5:46 pm The subject of the sentence is numerus which is modified by the genitive plural stultorum The number (or count) of fools est is Infinitus a nominative singular subject complement (or if you will, predicate adjective) infinite; Infinite is the number of fools or The number of fools is infinite.

Also, as the philosopher James Douglas Morrison noted, "People are Strange"; they behave strangely.

Hi Gareth!

That´s one of the backsides writing in another language than your own!

Greetings

John

Danya (imported) wrote: Mon May 18, 2009 3:34 pm I don't have much time to write this evening. I'm busy preparing from my one-year anniversary party Tuesday evening. This is the first anniversary of me, Danya, the day I became a new person at the office.

I'm starting to feel very angry about what happened at work. This is a good thing, but also potentially dangerous. I'm considering writing a formal letter, diplomatically phrased, to Human Resources explaining my side of things.

I have no wish to get anyone in trouble. On the other hand, I am concerned about not having my side of the story fully heard and in the record. ......

I was able to resolve the work 'problem' without resorting to bloodshed! I found out that things were not what they seemed and the entire episode was based on misinformation. Once I learned what was really going on, I wrote to the leader of my division to point this out and he agreed with me.

My coworker and I had a terrific talk this morning over coffee. We were very honest with each other. I had considered her a friend before (despite the 'Hi Freak' comment, which I discussed with her today) and now I feel that bond is stronger. She was being unfairly treated, too. We worked together to solve our joint problem.

I haven't had the chance to implement the final step of my 'set things right' plan, cookie diplomacy. By the end of the week, I'll bake cookies and take them to work.

That’s really great news I am happy for you

I just knew you had the inner strength to move fore ward

And over come this small problem

Great work