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Jocelynz (imported) wrote: Fri May 01, 2009 8:53 pm Surgical castration for such actions is a logical conclusion. Chemical castration doesn't work. And it surely a kindness to the men who perpetrate these crimes, as they very often are driven by urges they cannot control.

You men over dramatise the loss of testicles which, can actually be a beneficial to health.

I do understand the emotional trauma that being a macho man entails and being castrated certainly would undermine this. Maybe the world needs to rethink this image?

After all, isn't it worse to incarcerate a man for years just for having urges he cannot control, than to remove those urges and thus allow him to enjoy a useful life with no ongoing threat to anyone?

Support for the surgical castration of sex offenders is gathering pace. It was successful in Denmark in the sixties and will inevitably return.

Jocelyn.

I am totally for either a chemical or surgical castration for the pedofiels cause this can not be simplified only by uncontrollable sexual urges but only with a complete and a complete sick mind. Sorry by being mean but I can not be more polite when I think about the pedofiels and their sick minds so sick that they can dare to molest inncocent children. Sexula urges can be handled by having sex either male, female, bisex, les, eunuch, gay etc but keeping themselves behind uncontrollable sexual urges...Sorry guys no one on earth can explain that to me...So I wonder and wish if there is a way of brain castrating those pedofiels...
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kizahakan (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 5:50 am minds so sick that they can dare to molest inncocent children.

When I was 10 years old I was "molested" by our neighbour's son; he was then around 14 or 15 years old. One day in the summer holidays we went for a walk across the fields, paddled in the river and sunbathed naked. He handled my penis and encouraged me to kiss and play with his penis, and I recall being impressed by his pubic hair because mine hadn't yet started to grow. The experience made me feel like his special friend and I've always remembered that hot summer day with pleasure. It didn't happen again and we never ever talked about it. He's been happily married for many years now so I think it was just a case of curiosity about the changes that occur at puberty.

I do not think for one moment that he had a sick mind, and I truly believe that he was as innocent as I was.

Having read some of the postings on this thread I'm horrified to think what might have happened if I had told anyone, such as parents or schoolteachers. Would my neighbour's son have been prosecuted? Would either or both us been put in a care home? Would people have demanded he be surgically or chemically castrated? Thank God I didn't speak about it or both our lives could have been wrecked.

That said, I fully understand that it's a different matter with serial offenders and those who groom and prey on innocent children. But I really think we need to be cautious about just who we label as a paedophile.

Sorry if this looks like a rant!
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ukeunuch (imported) wrote: Sat May 02, 2009 1:29 am Thank you I believe the spelling in question is DUTCH, not an English misspelling. --FLO--

The spelling is not Dutch.
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eunuch2001 (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 6:25 am When I was 10 years old I was "molested" by our neighbour's son; he was then around 14 or 15 years old. One day in the summer holidays we went for a walk across the fields, paddled in the river and sunbathed naked. He handled my penis and encouraged me to kiss and play with his penis, and I recall being impressed by his pubic hair because mine hadn't yet started to grow. The experience made me feel like his special friend and I've always remembered that hot summer day with pleasure. It didn't happen again and we never ever talked about it. He's been happily married for many years now so I think it was just a case of curiosity about the changes that occur at puberty.

I do not think for one moment that he had a sick mind, and I truly believe that he was as innocent as I was.

Having read some of the postings on this thread I'm horrified to think what might have happened if I had told anyone, such as parents or schoolteachers. Would my neighbour's son have been prosecuted? Would either or both us been put in a care home? Would people have demanded he be surgically or chemically castrated? Thank God I didn't speak about it or both our lives could have been wrecked.

That said, I fully understand that it's a different matter with serial offenders and those who groom and prey on innocent children. But I really think we need to be cautious about just who we label as a paedophile.

Sorry if this looks like a rant!

And thank God for your posting. Once I had found out about myself, I knew that my love for children had nothing to do with uncontrollable sexual urges.

In fact, no child has the sexual maturity to be a match for my sexual desires

And I don't think that I am a sick mind as kizahakan and a lot of others are thinking. The sick minds are those who can't understand, that I am just that different that I do not function in that sexual way they are bound to themselves. Somehow, if I have - sorry wrong word, I never have or own a little friend he owns me or at least I am his servant- a minor friend, they have no other shit in their mind as : He is going to molest that poor child.

Paedophile means child lover and love is not the same as sex. There is no need for sex, but yes, that love is such a big part of mine, that a child can become the most important person in my life.

Sick minds were those who talked me into my problems, as nothing else seems to exist. And sick minds are those who don't stop sending that sick message into the world, hurting a new generation and growing new problems.

Oh, and before the next smart guy turns up, Yes I do understand how careful I have to be with that love, not taking over his life, leaving him free. keeping enough distance if he needs it, and step back and let them free if they develop into a relation. If I wasn't careful at that point, very careful, I would still molest them, without having sex

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Jean, i think you are right sex and love are different, you can love someone and not have sex. In relations between man and woman this is mostly different although a one night stand has nothing to do with love in my opinion. sex is for reproduction and not a way to show affection.

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eefje46 (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 9:51 am Jean, i think you are right sex and love are different, you can love someone and not have sex. In relations between man and woman this is mostly different although a one night stand has nothing to do with love in my opinion. sex is for reproduction and not a way to show affection.

grtz eef

Thanks, now I understand why I can't stand the idea of a one night stand with a child. My god I see them hanging around in Vietnam, trying to make a child "happy" with 20 usd in stead of 5 for a night full of "love"

Yeah I do understand a lot of comments, but that doesn't give any-one the right to accuse me of being the same kind of shit

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eunuch2001 (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 6:25 am I do not think for one moment that he had a sick mind, and I truly believe that he was as innocent as I was.

Having read some of the postings on this thread I'm horrified to think what might have happened if I had told anyone, such as parents or schoolteachers. Would my neighbour's son have been prosecuted? Would either or both us been put in a care home? Would people have demanded he be surgically or chemically castrated? Thank God I didn't speak about it or both our lives could have been wrecked.

That said, I fully understand that it's a different matter with serial offenders and those who groom and prey on innocent children. But I really think we need to be cautious about just who we label as a paedophile.

Sorry if this looks like a rant!

Hi,

What I totally meant by "sick mind" I referred grown ups having sex with chilgren or molesting children so I can not say anything for any play between the minors unless there'sd no forcement but I still insist that anyone as grown up molesting innocent children is only buy only "sick minded" and purely need medical asistance or so...

BTW english is not my 1st language so sorry for any misunderstanding but I can never ever have any type of sympathy for the ones that are molesting children..never ever...
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Jean Op den Kamp (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 10:24 am Thanks, now I understand why I can't stand the idea of a one night stand with a child. My god I see them hanging around in Vietnam, trying to make a child "happy" with 20 usd in stead of 5 for a night full of "love"

Yeah I do understand a lot of comments, but that doesn't give any-one the right to accuse me of being the same kind of shit

loveUall

Jean

Dear Jean

I originally intended to send this as a PM but I suspect you've already received plenty of those (and not all supportive) so I'm going to speak publicly.

I do not think for one moment that you are "the same kind of shit"; I believe you are a victim of misunderstanding and general hysteria.

In an earlier posting I said what happened to me when I was 10 years old, and I absolutely refuse to label my neighbour as a paedophile. It is natural for children to be inquisitive about the effects of puberty. Also it is entirely natural for an adult to express love and affection to a child by way of a kiss or an embrace or a caress. This is not paedophilia; these are totally different situations to a pervert preying on innocent children.

We should be very careful before we label a man as a paedophile.
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eunuch2001 (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 11:59 am Dear Jean

I originally intended to send this as a PM but I suspect you've already received plenty of those (and not all supportive) so I'm going to speak publicly.

I do not think for one moment that you are "the same kind of shit"; I believe you are a victim of misunderstanding and general hysteria.

In an earlier posting I said what happened to me when I was 10 years old, and I absolutely refuse to label my neighbour as a paedophile. It is natural for children to be inquisitive about the effects of puberty. Also it is entirely natural for an adult to express love and affection to a child by way of a kiss or an embrace or a caress. This is not paedophilia; these are totally different situations to a pervert preying on innocent children.

We should be very careful before we label a man as a paedophile.

Dear eunuch2001,

If I allow a child to take over my life, if he is the most important in my mind.

If because of him, I am working 7 days every week,in a country I can't stand anymore, to support him, his family and his neighbourhood, in stead of relaxing in a country where I understand how to live from one single dollar a day. If I dare to stand up, taking a hell of risks, to tell that he needs more attention, that he needs to feel that the world is something more then poor Q8 HCM..... that at least is not a normal behavior to society, how should I call it.

There are different worlds on this earth.

If a child has hurt itself, or is really heartbroken about something, and crying,

it will always be me who tries to comfort him/her. Even if we don't speak the same language, somehow I always manage to calm them down. And with the last tears I get that look: "Why, who is he, why is he helping me?"

At that moment, I like to kiss away those last tears from its (even dirty) face

That is an answer to that question. A lifetime answer.

If I do this in Asia, it will be silent around me for some seconds, the next moment I am pushed somehow in a chair and serving tea is the smallest gesture they will come up with. If I do this in my country, I will need to look if there is any safe way to escape.

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eunuch2001 (imported) wrote: Fri May 15, 2009 6:25 am When I was 10 years old I was "molested" by our neighbour's son; he was then around 14 or 15 years old. One day in the summer holidays we went for a walk across the fields, paddled in the river and sunbathed naked. He handled my penis and encouraged me to kiss and play with his penis, and I recall being impressed by his pubic hair because mine hadn't yet started to grow. The experience made me feel like his special friend and I've always remembered that hot summer day with pleasure. It didn't happen again and we never ever talked about it. He's been happily married for many years now so I think it was just a case of curiosity about the changes that occur at puberty.

I do not think for one moment that he had a sick mind, and I truly believe that he was as innocent as I was.

Having read some of the postings on this thread I'm horrified to think what might have happened if I had told anyone, such as parents or schoolteachers. Would my neighbour's son have been prosecuted? Would either or both us been put in a care home? Would people have demanded he be surgically or chemically castrated? Thank God I didn't speak about it or both our lives could have been wrecked.

That said, I fully understand that it's a different matter with serial offenders and those who groom and prey on innocent children. But I really think we need to be cautious about just who we label as a paedophile.

Sorry if this looks like a rant!

Just to illustrate the general hysteria about pedofiles, there was an incident in UK few years ago, when a hysterical mob broke glasses of house and tried to set it to fire of a pediatrist, a word has passed mouth by mouth that a pedofile is living in this house. They did not understand the meaning the word "pediatrist" thinking it is the same as pedofile.

Another story happened in US where a 11yo boy was arrested on accusations of neighbour who had seen him behave suspiciously in the garden with his 3 yo sister. He was helping his sister to pee.

I don't know where will we end with this hysteria. Soon we are rejecting our own children in fear of accusations, thus making our own children easy pray for true criminal pedofiles, who use children for pornography etc.

For them who can not control their urges, castration is a solution, until we do not have efficient drugs. Simple.

Those who use children for trade and pornography should be jailed for a very long time period. As any other criminal taking into account the severity using children in commiting a crime.

Just few days ago a drunk driver trying to escape from police, drove over two girls. One of them died today. That seem to be more acceptable in society. Nobody even wished death to the drunk driver, and journalists were blamed on careless speech.
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