antoniafrancesca (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:33 pm Well, you said that it would be Friday didn't you. Now, for sure you will have that glow of satisfaction that I had, and by the way, is still there. Congratulations.

You should only have acknowledged just r1honour and not me - he is the expert. My physical state as at 38 hours has not changed - no real pain, just a dull ache etc etc.

Yes I did, and my thanks to both of you, because a theory is only that until it is repeated, then it is proved. He theorised and tested, you proved the theory and I am following the lead of both of you.

Well 3 hours in, and some mild discomfort, but I will agree with you that walking seems to relieve that to a large extent. As a matter of interest, is your discomfort centred in your testicles or in your lower abdomen, mine seems to be in my lower abdomen, though my testicles are a bit swolen and tender to the touch.

antoniafrancesca (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:43 pm r1honour Just need to thank you for all your posts. You were the inspiration to me to go ahead with 0.40mls. Even then, I thought it might be too much as my testicles are very small compared to you. I am not even at 2 days but I am quietly confident that following your method, it might just work.

Hello antoniafrancesca,

At three months, the approach I chose seems to have been quite effective for me.

My balls, while continuing to shrink, are currently about 25% their initial volume.

My reading through this thread, up to the point I injected, led me to believe a lesser dose would be effective, despite the fact I began the process with very large balls.

Due to hypogonadism, I was already utilising supplemental testosterone prior to injecting. At that point, an erection was highly unlikely and an orgasism was nearly impossible to achieve.

I've titrated my dosing of injectable testosterone to maintain my total level below 200. I've sought to stave off the nasty effects of being testosterone deficient, while maintaining asexuality. One one end of the spectrum, I have no desire to feminise, on the other I have no desire to re-awaken a libido.

Ultimately I'll seek to have my balls surgically removed, as I am concerned about long-term consequence of having near-necrotic tissue in my scrotum.

Best of luck to you and micdavi24 in your journey.

R.H.

micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2013 9:53 pm As a matter of interest, is your discomfort centred in your testicles or in your lower abdomen, mine seems to be in my lower abdomen, though my testicles are a bit swolen and tender to the touch.

Hello micdavi24,

The nerve clusters to the testicles route through the abdomen. The discomfort I experienced centered around two issues: Intense swelling in my balls (which made them quite hard and uncomfortable to endure in my shorts) and a dull ache that radiated into my abdomen.

Three months in, I still have some slight discomfort as my balls slowly die off.

And, now that they've shrunken significantly, it's wonderful to not be so focused on continuing to endure them in my shorts.

A couple of other thoughts...

If I were to start the process today, I would have mixed a small amount of ethyl alcohol in with my preparation. In re-reading the animal studies, it seems the presence of alcohol helps to lessen the orchitis which is triggered by this assault.

My choice of a lower dose was my belief that a larger dose would not be necessary to achieve my goal and could potentially lead to a greater chance of adverse effect. My reading of the animal studies is that a larger dose was used to achieve sterility as quickly as possible. My goal wasn't to achieve sterility, but to either reduce or cause surgical removal of my balls.

I'm a patient man.

R.H.

r1honourThanks once again for your very clear commentary. I am pleased to hear the reasons for the pains in the abdomen. micdavi23 asked me where my discomfort was and I can confirm that it is principally in various parts of the abdomen and also in my testicles if any pressure is put on them. I am now at 42 hours and when I got up this morning and stood absolutely still, had no pain anywhere. Of course once I started moving, it was back to the original symptoms - a dull ache, very swollen and hard testicles. I only have one complaint and that is I am impatient to see the results and I have a personal philosophy of living in the present and not wishing for time to go by quickly. It is going to do that quickly enough without wishing for it.

r1honour (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:43 pm Hello micdavi24,

The nerve clusters to the testicles route through the abdomen. The discomfort I experienced centered around two issues: Intense swelling in my balls (which made them quite hard and uncomfortable to endure in my shorts) and a dull ache that radiated into my abdomen.

Three months in, I still have some slight discomfort as my balls slowly die off.

And, now that they've shrunken significantly, it's wonderful to not be so focused on continuing to endure them in my shorts.

A couple of other thoughts...

If I were to start the process today, I would have mixed a small amount of ethyl alcohol in with my preparation. In re-reading the animal studies, it seems the presence of alcohol helps to lessen the orchitis which is triggered by this assault.

My choice of a lower dose was my belief that a larger dose would not be necessary to achieve my goal and could potentially lead to a greater chance of adverse effect. My reading of the animal studies is that a larger dose was used to achieve sterility as quickly as possible. My goal wasn't to achieve sterility, but to either reduce or cause surgical removal of my balls.

I'm a patient man.

R.H.

Thank you very much for your advice and it definitely seems that less is more. I used a dilution of about 22.5% calcium chloride with 80 proof vodka. How I made it up was I used 2ml of 50% CaCl2 and 2.5ml of vodka and as I work this out, it gives you about a 22.5 % solution. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I did not sterilize the solution as I am relying on a hostile in the high alkaline environment and the alcohol content of the vodka to take care of the bugs. I then banded my balls with a rubber band which presented them very nicely. Shaving was not required, though I would advise any future people going this rout to shave their scrotum. I didn't shave as my entire body except for my head and arms is clean shaven. I also taped my penis to my stomach which made access to my testicles very easy. I manipulated my testicles so they were vertical and then I could push the needle down into the center of the testicle to deliver the 0.5ml of solution to each one.

The abdominal discomfort lasted for about an hour, so from hour 1 til about 2 hours after injecting. even the tenderness in the testicles has diminished from about 3/10 to around 1/10, which is negligible.

Thank you very much for your pioneering of new methods of applying this solution to our usage.

I do feel that it is imperative that you, Antoniafrancesca and I document our application and progress accurately and often to aid others who wish to use this method to castrate themselves and to prevent some of the adverse consequences that some of the early pioneers suffered.

I definitely feel that less is more as I could feel a sense of internal pressure when I got to the 0.5ml point of the injection and I think any more could be possibly do more harm than good LOL, seems funny talking about doing harm when the very essence of what we are doing is to destroy our testicles.

Even this early in the game I am very happy with the results so far and I, like you also want my testicles surgically removed, I also want my scrotum removed as I don't see the sense of having an empty bag hanging around down there where it can potentially cause discomfort and problems in hot weather.

OK, long post, but I do think that knowledge is power and I want to be able to leave my experiences here for others who may follow this route as well.

Ok, once again thanks very much for your pioneering work on the latest application of this method of castration. I can't wait to reap the fruits of what I have done today.

micdavi24 I have something for you to look forward to. This was a first for me. I have been out for a long walk and for at least 20 minutes I had the warm glow of an erection in my pants. Luckily I was wearing a coat as it is quite cold here. Anyway, after about 20 minutes, I got the chance to slip my hand into my pants to feel how big it was - and it was (from the cold) not much more than 2 inches. !!

micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:13 pm Antoniafrancesca, one other thing that intreagues me, I see that you are straight and still pretty young, so why the desire to be castrated, maybe you did mention it in an earlier post but I may have missed it.

micdavi24 I owe you and everyone an apology. When I registered here I gave no thought when I entered my year of birth. Mainly for “identity theft” precautions coupled with the fact that I hate the idea of being analyzed and turned into a statistic, I entered a false year of birth as I have done every time I am asked for this info online.

Instead of 1953, I entered 1982. I have messaged the administrator and apologized and asked that this be corrected on my profile. I have to say, with modesty, I can pass for 40-45 very easily when my real age is 61. I didn't think that on EA, age is quite important for people to know. By pure luck I have a young face and have a slim figure. My weight never fluctuates and is a constant 62-63 kgs. Once again, sorry. While I am in the confessional mode, despite having been married with children, and never having had a relationship with a man, I changed my sexual orientation from straight, to straight (but could have gay tendencies) - must be my low testosterone, causing some very naughty thoughts that have gone through my head!!

antoniafrancesca (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2013 6:40 am micdavi24 I owe you and everyone an apology. When I registered here I gave no thought when I entered my year of birth. Mainly for “identity theft” precautions coupled with the fact that I hate the idea of being analyzed and turned into a statistic, I entered a false year of birth as I have done every time I am asked for this info online.

Instead of 1953, I entered 1982. I have messaged the administrator and apologized and asked that this be corrected on my profile. I have to say, with modesty, I can pass for 40-45 very easily when my real age is 61. I didn't think that on EA, age is quite important for people to know. By pure luck I have a young face and have a slim figure. My weight never fluctuates and is a constant 62-63 kgs. Once again, sorry. While I am in the confessional mode, despite having been married with children, and never having had a relationship with a man, I changed my sexual orientation from straight, to straight (but could have gay tendencies) - must be my low testosterone, causing some very naughty thoughts that have gone through my head!!

No worries, it really doesn't matter at all. Oh well just over 12 hours in and no significant pain at all, if anything, less than I usually have to deal with, so hopefully this is working and very shortly they wll be history and in some pathology lab. I would have liked to keep them preserved in a jar, but given the means of destruction, I doubt this will happen.

micdavi24 Really pleased that things are going well - I reckon that both of us have got it right with the quantities. I am now at 60 hours and I would say that my vasectomy 13 years ago caused me much more discomfort than this. Apart from a lot of swelling and tenderness I cannot complain. I walked 9 miles yesterday and another 3 today. If I am going to get a "phantom erection" every time I go out walking in the cold, I might just up my daily mileage! Like you, I want to get done surgically as soon as I can and get rid of my scrotum. Which reminds me, it has dried up and is leathery and very wrinkled. I wonder if that is the effect of the salt? I am still very relaxed about everything and happy that I have taken a step that cannot be retraced.

micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2013 7:18 am No worries, it really doesn't matter at all. Oh well just over 12 hours in and no significant pain at all, if anything, less than I usually have to deal with, so hopefully this is working and very shortly they wll be history and in some pathology lab. I would have liked to keep them preserved in a jar, but given the means of destruction, I doubt this will happen.

Yes... it is sort of comforting to have the "boys" in a mason "ball" jar on the bedroom shelf. and yes...that's them in the palm of Mistress Antoinettes hand.

Cheers, john