Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:20 am I accept your apology A-1 although no-where in any of my postings do I make any allusions to puppet states at all, have I? I wrote of 'occupied states' and 'neutral states' but not once did I mention puppets.

Thank you

A quick read of those remarks ought to show why a 51 year old might find it a bit insulting being recommended a quirky novel for 16 year old girls.

I prefer the novels of Alan Hollinghurst and particularly enjoyed 'The Spell'.

It's slightly off topic A-1 but it is perfectly compatible to make the remarks I did about asexuals and Vegans and yet still eat meat and read highly sexual novels.

Let us face the facts...We can be Vegans and Valentines, but we are not likely to be VIRGINS>>>:D

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:20 am Reading enables one to expand your outlook and even 'be involved' in a plot which is erotic and sexy. The reader though can remain asexual though; it is part of the pleasure of reading and maybe you might like this author?

We have both written and responded intelligently on any number of threads and I realise the big difference between puppy and puppet in your post.

I have no bad feeling towards you and I fully withdraw the 'flaming' remark.

Again, thank you!

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:20 am Meanwhile, back on this thread I was delighted to read that the Italian Government lit up the Colliseum last weekend in a show of opposition to Capital Punishment and that the UN and Pope and prominent global politicians

have requested that Iraq does not proceed with the 2 advertised hangings.

I also noticed the Iraqi President has suggested that those who oppose his views are enemies of his country. It all sounds to me like he is another despot and this time I will use the word 'puppet'.

YOU are being too gracious, Sacmec...Idiot would fit him better...Just imagine how the USA would have fared if we had executed all of the Confederate Generals and Jefferson Davis after the Civil War...in 1865. Like I say, the man is an IDIOT...much worse than Bush...

I'm glad all that is sorted, A-1.

I'd like to expand a little about the power of a good novel and author. As I've sort of stated already a book has the ability to enable one to experience events, times and feelings all of which may be outside one's own immediate lifestyle choices. I made a slight error (because I've not yet read it) in recommending 'The Spell' to you. It's an error in my book filing because the novel I have read and thoroughly enjoyed by Alan Hollinghurst is 'The Folding Star'. You may well not share the perspective's of Edward Manners, the chief character but the book is compelling on so many levels from darkness to humour. I agree so much with Amazon reviewer Chris J about this book.

As regards Saddam's execution, did you notice that Tony Blair has finally been forced, after about 9 days to call it 'horrible' before he glossed over it?

A comparison between the words of our Deputy Prime Minister and Gordon Brown reveals that he has been a bit weasel worded for fear of offending the puppet Leader in Baghdad or seen to be implying any great criticism of his own war ally, George Bush. His choice of words will not be lost on the British public come the May Local Elections.

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:28 am http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/62

46553.stm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Folding-Star-Al ... F8&s=books

I heard that Blair is not running again.

Is that so?

Tony Blair will relinquish power as Prime Minister before mid-summer, we have been informed that that will be, at the latest, around mid July. The Local Elections though are in early May. During the last summer break, in 2006, Labour politicians were very forthright that he ought to have stepped down as soon as possible and certainly well before the May Elections. The Prime Minister wishes to remain in power for 10 complete years and that means he has to stay in power into early Summer so there is a clash of interests and a lot of background disquiet.

Returning to Saddam. When the "leader" of the new Iraq states that countries who criticise the hanging of Saddam are enemies of his country, he has, by implication criticised one of his supposed few allies, namely the UK and members of our ruling party. Didn't he also tell the Washington Post recently that he didn't want the job?

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:57 am Tony Blair will relinquish power as Prime Minister before mid-summer, we have been informed that that will be, at the latest, around mid July. The Local Elections though are in early May. During the last summer break, in 2006, Labour politicians were very forthright that he ought to have stepped down as soon as possible and certainly well before the May Elections. The Prime Minister wishes to remain in power for 10 complete years and that means he has to stay in power into early Summer so there is a clash of interests and a lot of background disquiet.

Returning to Saddam. When the "leader" of the new Iraq states that countries who criticise the hanging of Saddam are enemies of his country, he has, by implication criticised one of his supposed few allies, namely the UK and members of our ruling party. Didn't he also tell the Washington Post recently that he didn't want the job?

Good observation!

Now, if we will just get the hell out and let him finish his civil war he can get to the job of controlling that shit-hole of a counrty the way that Saddam did it...which is probably the only way that it will work.

I had a dog once who chased cars, but who I could never teach to drive them after she caught them...

Then, we could send him all of the VX that is stored in Indiana that nobody can seem to get rid of and he could go back to the Saddamish methods that everyone in Iraq seems to understand so well... click here (http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news ... 296497.htm)

Groups sue to halt nerve-gas disposal

The neutralized agent would be dumped into the Delaware in N.J.

By Angela Delli Santi

Associated Press

TRENTON - Environmental and other watchdog groups have filed a federal lawsuit to stop the U.S. Army from trucking the byproduct of a deadly chemical weapon from Indiana to New Jersey, where it would be treated and dumped into the Delaware River.

The complaint by the Delaware Riverkeeper Network and other groups claims the Army's plan to transport the byproduct of neutralized VX nerve agent across state lines violates a federal law banning interstate movement of chemical weapons.

The suit, filed in federal district court in Washington on Wednesday and made public by the plaintiffs yesterday, also challenges the Army's assessment of the impact on the river. The complaint seeks to force the Army to complete an environmental-impact statement before the project is allowed to move forward.

"We're challenging this toxic threat, and we're also challenging future toxic threats," said Delaware Riverkeeper Maya K. van Rossum. She said it's vital to stop the Army now because there are numerous chemical-weapons stockpiles in need of disposal.

Army spokesman Jeff Lindblad said he was aware of the lawsuit, but would not comment on it. He did say that the Centers for Disease Control found no safety issues with transporting the neutralized VX in a 2005 report, and that the Environmental Protection Agency determined this year that the dumping would not harm the river's plant or animal life.

The General Accounting Office is reviewing the Army's cost-benefit analysis of the project, Lindblad said.

VX is so deadly that a single drop can kill a person in minutes by paralyzing the nervous system, causing suffocation. The Army is required by a 1997 international treaty to destroy the Cold War-era remnant by 2012. It is in the process of neutralizing its stockpile at Indiana's Newport Chemical Depot.

The Army has tried for years to win approval to ship the VX byproduct to a DuPont facility in Deepwater, N.J., where it would be treated and dumped into the river.

The proposed dumping site, near the Delaware Memorial Bridge, is 30 miles upriver of the Delaware Bay's oyster beds.

Environmentalists and officials in Delaware and New Jersey oppose the plan and have said they will fight it through legislation and in court, if necessary. Meanwhile, a federal review of the plan is continuing.

Co-plaintiffs in the suit are the American Littoral Society; the Chemical Weapons Working Group, based in Kentucky; Pennsylvania Clean Water Action; the Delaware and New Jersey Audubon Societies, and the New Jersey Environmental Federation.

...of course, one would have to consider the possibility of it falling into the hands of terrorists if he is ever overthrown...or if he gets pissed off at the United States...

When will we learn that the world is not our oyster, and so we have no business poisoning oysters...?