The case is progressing. She pleaded "not guilty". By the way, I understand that our court system usually makes that the best approach, but seriously at some point if you're caught in the act, admit you did it, and anyway if you have any sense of fair play at all, I don't understand why people don't plead guilty. If I ever hurt someone I'm pretty sure I would admit it. I guess the criminal mind just thinks differently, which is why I'm not in a situation where I have to plead ... I just like to think that there is enough good in people that even if they do bad (everyone's tempted) that at some point they're willing to face up to what they've done.

I also wonder what she thinks about what she did. In her case it was so premeditated that despite the possible consequences to her I expect she's still glad she did it, and probably relishes the fact that the guy is without his dick for the rest of his life.

This article here has a video of her in court, probably from her initial hearing: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/ ... enis-case/

And here's the article that has the text copied below:

JesusA (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:49 am http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/

Garden-Grove-Woman-Pleads-Not-Guilty-to-Cutting-Off-Husbands-Penis-138678979.html

A Garden Grove woman who allegedly cut off her estranged husband’s penis and put it in a garbage disposal has pleaded not guilty.

Catherine Kieu, 48, pleaded not guilty to aggravated mayhem and torture on Friday.

Authorities said Kieu allegedly severed her husband’s penis in July 2011 after getting into an argument. She reportedly used a 10-inch kitchen knife to cut off the organ after she drugged his dinner and tied him to his bed.

Doctors at UC Irvine were unable to re-attach the organ.

The couple had still been living together even after her estranged husband filed for divorce in May 2

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:42 am 011.

Kieu, who was indicted last month, faces pos

sible life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:26 pm The case is progressing. She pleaded "not guilty". By the way, I understand that our court system usually makes that the best approach, but seriously at some point if you're caught in the act, admit you did it, and anyway if you have any sense of fair play at all, I don't understand why people don't plead guilty. If I ever hurt someone I'm pretty sure I would admit it. I guess the criminal mind just thinks differently, which is why I'm not in a situation where I have to plead ... I just like to think that there is enough good in people that even if they do bad (everyone's tempted) that at some point they're willing to face up to what they've done.

I also wonder what she thinks about what she did. In her case it was so premeditated that despite the possible consequences to her I expect she's still glad she did it, and probably relishes the fact that the guy is without his dick for the rest of his life.

This article here has a video of her in court, probably from her initial hearing: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/ ... enis-case/

And here's the article that has the text copied below:

JesusA (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:26 pm 40]
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/

Garden-Grove-Woman-Pleads-Not-Guilty-to-Cutting-Off-Husbands-Penis-138678979.html

A Garden Grove woman who allegedly cut off her estranged husband’s penis and put it in a garbage disposal has pleaded not guilty.

Catherine Kieu, 48, pleaded not guilty to aggravated mayhem and torture on Friday.

Authorities said Kieu allegedly severed her husband’s penis in July 2011 after getting into an argument. She reportedly used a 10-inch kitchen knife to cut off the organ after she drugged his dinner and tied him to his bed.

Doctors at UC Irvine were unable to re-attach the organ.

The couple had still been living together even
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after her estranged husband filed for divorce in M

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:26 pm ay 2

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:42 am 011.

Kieu, who wa

s indicted last month, faces pos

sible life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted.

I believe the issue is; plead guilty to what crime, not the act.

The same act might be attempted murder, mayhem, "not in my right mind at the moment".

And of course the lawyers would never want to save anyone any money by just sitting down and deciding what they might agree to term the act without seeking an advantage.

Moi

Waiting for the Cultural Sensitivity defense.

Were there any Twinkies in the house?

moi621 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:40 pm

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:26 pm Doctors at UC Ir

vine were unable to re-attach the organ.

The poor guy must be hating life. Every time he looks at a sexy women he can only dream of the hardon he no longer has.

You have to give her credit for style.

Not a simple, wait until he passes out, get the knife, usual M.O. ala Bobbit.

The drugs, the tie down, the wake up to see what is about to happen, down the garbage disposal.

Style.

So delicious

I would remove premeditation from the charges as a credit to her style.

Sort of like the difference between crack and regular cocaine. Style.

Moi

moi621 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:40 pm I believe the issue is; plead guilty to what crime, not the act.

The same act might be attempted murder, mayhem, "not in my right mind at the moment".

And of course the lawyers would never want to save anyone any money by just sitting down and deciding what they might agree to term the act without seeking an advantage.

Moi

Waiting for the Cultural Sensitivity defense.

Were there any Twinkies in the house?

Yeah, but then you should suggest an alternate/lesser crime that you admit to. I realize you don't have to, but I don't see how you can (morally) argue with things like saying you're not guilty of a torture charge when you obviously tied a guy up and made him watch you cut off an appendage and permanently destroy it. Again I realize how the law works, just saying I don't see why people won't just admit to what they did -- I guess it's just the distinction between a moral and immoral person. If I tortured someone and was caught doing it, I would say "yeah, you got me and I guess I deserve whatever punishment fits".