Moi, how many days a year is the grapevine closed? 5 days, 10 days? How much does it cost for a truck to remove that snow? Cost of driver? etc.?

Is it worth it for you to put in a generator for your house if the electric goes out a couple days every 4 or 5 years? Maybe.

The only road they keep open in the north is Donner Pass, all the others close for the winter, there is good reason for this.

So Moi, do you really think its cost effective to have a dozen trucks standing by that you use 3 or 4 days a year? It would take at least a dozen trucks, maybe more.

Also remembering that the grapevine is a steep road, one that trucks have run offs in case there brakes get to hot and fail. Do you really want those trucks going down the grapevine with chains on, in the snow and ice, that is a dangerous road even when the conditions are good, you want to keep it open in the winter with snow and ice?

Have you thought this through?

River

Last February's snow strikes one more time:

The tree guys just left. They were here from 8am till 4pm. What a siege that was all day. Noise, five guys named "Say what?" and more noise, cold and rain and more noise. The magic number was 7 trees had to go after last winter, Noise a day.

Now I'm now poor, too. Gee that 125 HP chipper made noise and the hydralic bucket truck motor ran all day too... Did I say noisy?

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:22 am Moi, how many days a year is the grapevine closed? 5 days, 10 days? How much does it cost for a truck to remove that snow? Cost of driver? etc.?

Is it worth it for you to put in a generator for your house if the electric goes out a couple days every 4 or 5 years? Maybe.

The only road they keep open in the north is Donner Pass, all the others close for the winter, there is good reason for this.

So Moi, do you really think its cost effective to have a dozen trucks standing by that you use 3 or 4 days a year? It would take at least a dozen trucks, maybe more.

Also remembering that the grapevine is a steep road, one that trucks have run offs in case there brakes get to hot and fail. Do you really want those trucks going down the grapevine with chains on, in the snow and ice, that is a dangerous road even when the conditions are good, you want to keep it open in the winter with snow and ice?

Have you thought this through?

River

Rain is beginning to trickle.

3 days of severe weather alerts starting.

Let's see if the Grapevine closes.

As a main artery between North and South, I do believe it should be maintained with Milwaukee efficiency.

Yes I do River !

But considering the grade, maybe lessons would be better learned from Pittsburgh with its' San Francisco like hills and snow too rather then Milwaukee.

Remember, it hasn't been the "old" Grapevine for many years.

Moi

Let it rain, let it rain, let it rain.

Well it was no great rain back in November.

Just the usual government hype because after all, the weather service is a government agency and the purpose of government is to lie. Just to practice, even when they don't have to.

So here

moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:49 pm in Southern Coastal Califo-nia

we were told scattered showers Sat. & Sun. and then clearing. Now this Sunday night we are told to brace for rain.

Who can you trust?

Not the government weather bureau.

Moi

I miss Dr. George

Anyone remember, Dr. George?

I'm waiting for a tornado to carry me to the Land of Oz. What's the prognosis?

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:25 pm I'm waiting for a tornado to carry me to the Land of Oz. What's the prognosis?

Yanno, if I were mean and nasty, you just walked into the cream pie factory, held out both arms and yelled HIT ME!

I will not say it. I will not say it. I will not say it.

"They" say Southern Califo-nia is in for some big time rain.

Even though it has been only a drizzle to maybe a lite pitter patter, nothing qualifying as close to a heavy rain, let alone moderate. Still "they" insist big time rain is coming and continuing for four day.

The air is clean and if there is a smell, it is of salt like the ocean. I like rain.

Moi

solar powered X-mas decorations suffering

Anyone notice weather seems to oscillate harder?

Stormy season is stormier.

Cold season is colder and hot hotter.

And as a weather change happens with seasons or fronts, it seems more extreme. Anyone notice?

There is a big band of rain soaking California this upcoming few days to a week.

I suggest you take off your clothes, pick up a bar of soap and go outside to shower.

Who knows, the nieghbors might actually enjoy watching...

Of course make sure its the bio-degradable kind of soap.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:28 am Of course make sure its the bio-degradable kind of soap.

RiverIs there such a thing as a bio-degradable soap?