Rusty Dai (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:16 pm I own a copy of the KJV and Jerusalem. And a Concordance. Lost that other book in the move, you know the one with several different versions side by side. One day this old mind will remember what it was and maybe go out an buy another.

I prefer the Jersualem Bible. It is a much easier read. I've also had several Pastors tell me it was translated more closely to English from the original texts than any other version.

Also, they said stay away from paraphrased bibles. Paraphrased versions really have the writer's influence and personal misunderstandings. We maybe should not be giving those to children. I firmly believe in marriage equality for all consenting adults. I like the judge that stumped Cooper with, tell me why gay marriage will harm St8s marriage. He didn't know. Chief counsel didn't know. Didn't know the answer to one of the most basic questions. I believe the answer is "because there is no harm, no danger and absolutely no threat to "traditional marriage." The known threats are from within the Str8 marriages, not gay marriages.

I find it really odd that people will scream "Find Jesus," "Follow Jesus" and then quote Leviticus, Paul and other writers found in the Bible to further their own interpretations. And, quite often at the expense of what Jesus really said and did.

The pastor of 13 in NC, I'm assuming he is counted as part of the congregation of 14, is just trying to make a name for himself. He will draw others out of the wood work and his church will grow, for a while.

Too bad it is not a really good foundation. The foundation of hate will collapse sooner or later, especially when the scales fall from their eyes as they did for Paul, no it was Saul really. He was human and was not perfect. He still had his prejudices and they are found in his writings and letters.

The versions of bible and other goodies this NC pastor doesn't like should not be tossed out, but studied and perhaps what is wrong pointed out. Of course that will be too slow to make the church grow, won't it.

gareth19 (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:07 am We have fragments of it in the Dead Sea Scrolls and we can compare the Greek text of ca. 200 BCE with the 10th century CE Masoretic text and see the differences.

What is missing are the Apocrypha, which were removed from the KJV because these texts appeared only in Greek; most of them now appear at least in fragmentary form in either Hebrew or Aramaic. And because Judith, Esther and all of Daniel is more interesting reading than Leviticus, Numbers or Deuteronomy, there absence in the KJV or the Masoretic text is a shame.

Misha999 (imported) wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:10 pm We're kinda gett'n off topic here.

The question posed was what are these book burners afraid of? They say that the KJV is the 'real' Bible and all others are heretical. If these folks are trying to get closest to an historically "English" version then I think it interesting that they disregard John Wycliffe's English Bible (the first handwritten version) which predates KJV by some 200 years.

The key word in all this is fear. As I said before these people simply can't make that leap of faith and rely on the promises of Christ. The fear of "what if we're wrong" constantly niggles in their hearts.