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Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:28 pm
by Slammr (imported)
tex
kristoff wrote: Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:35 am I shit canned your post, and then realized I would have to shit-can a half dozen more. Probably would have been better to leave your personal attack in place to show what an ass you were for making it. In any event, it got you my big boot in your ass. Bye bye.

You could have just given texmec Paolo's job as story and forum moderator. Wouldn't that have been a worse punishment, making him give away hours of his time - as you all do - for naught but criticism and ingratitude?

Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:29 pm
by A-1 (imported)
MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:42 pm No wool slinging either (pun intended)

...don't let the WOOL get in your eyes, just let the pacemaker get into you heart...

😄

Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:32 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Losethem (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 31, 2008 3:33 pm For what it's worth, I understand that moderators have a difficult job. Heck, I moderate a forum elsewhere and it's a constant battle to keep the place on-topic.

I've never fully understood why we even have political boards here... to me they seem out of place given the content and subject matter of the archive. However, I'm not the moderator, here.

What I am getting concerned about is the seeming hair-trigger that the moderators of the archive seem to have lately. Yes, there are plenty of people out there that would like to shut down any site with any hint of a penis or boobie being discussed or shown. However, this site has also been in the major news outlets, survived scandal after scandal by the sex police, etc.

But when it gets so bad you can't even discuss the core subject of the archive (namely castration and eunuchism) it's kind of getting pointless to even have a site any longer.

Simply put, the EUNUCH archive is starting to take a turn where it is no longer an archive of things EUNUCH.

I find that odd and distressing, and that's what my point is. If you can't discuss the subject matter, even in past tense (IE I was castrated, I burdizzoed myself, etc.) then what is the point of this place?

Dear Tugon, A Eunuch does not live by nutlessness alone... ;)

Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:58 pm
by tugon (imported)
A-1 (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:32 pm Dear Tugon, A Eunuch does not live by nutlessness alone... ;)

I am confused as why I was linked to Losethem"s post. Oh well I like my name in big bold letters.

Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:30 pm
by Losethem (imported)
kristoff wrote: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:20 pm No. This is an open forum, for example, and he could post here. He also has the ability to contact a number of members who could facilitate a request.

I learned something new about the structure of the archive today. Thanks. :)

Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:15 pm
by mrt (imported)
Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:53 pm Being a MtF pre-op transsexual who is not on hormones, and an existentialist, I believe that everyone has a right to be who or what they want to be. But having said that, we don't have to die to do that.

Yes, society makes it hard to things that violate the religious beliefs of the majority. Notice it's no problem if one wants to hack their face up, such as Michael Jackson, but if one says they don't want their genitals and suddenly they need their head examined.

The reason I am not on hormones is because I am disabled on Social Security and I can not afford a gender therapist, that would have to approve it. Social Security also won't pay for the hormones or the doctors care and supervision that is required to be on hormones. There is no rational reason this should not be included in my medical care, but that is how it is.

Now I could buy hormones over the internet and there are lots of places that will even tell you how much to take. But the deal is this. The endocrinological system of the body is very delicate and differs greatly from person to person. What is right for one person can kill another. And every year many who do this die from heart attack and strokes brought on by trying to do hormones without the doctors care.

Now if the idea is to be happy? Being dead does not seem very happy to me. So on the transsexual forums I am a member of, as well as the one I help moderate, information on self medicating is not allowed. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be on hormones or being castrated. I think people are pretty good at knowing what makes them happy. But there are ways to do it without dying and when there is not a way to do it, such as in my case, I will keep searching for a way. A chance to live as I wish is worth trying to get because the only other alternative is to die.

Sure, we need to talk about castration and yes we need to talk about our fantasies of what we would like to become and how. But that is why fantasies are fantasies. Not all fantasies can come true. And the ones that require people to die? ........Are in that category. If one is really ready to die for one fantasy, I think it's ok if we say "hey, something's wrong".

I have considered self castration many times. Sometimes it seems like that is the only way it will ever happen. But a lot of things can and do go wrong. All the stories I have read that were supposedly actual accounts, it seems the person always ends up in the hospital. This is not uncommon among transsexuals.

I believe the line is "life threatening". When one pierces or tattoo's or splits their tongue or penis, there is a risk of infection. But these are easily treatable and they really are not life threatening. But the reproductive organs are so important to evolution that removing them is life threatening. One can bleed to death.

So whenever anyone puts their own life or anyone elses in jeopardy, it's not ok. All health care professionals are required to report such things and it's irresponsible not to, in my personal opinion. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be an eunuch and there is nothing wrong with fantasizing different scenarios. But I don't agree that self harm does or should play a role in these discussions.

Now, before the arrows fly, this is just my opinion. If you want to change it, then show me why I am wrong.

Elizabeth

I think a fair number of people who thought they would be happy by being castrated found out that it wasn't what they wanted. Thus the suggestion of doing it with chems first has been a good one. I don't think body piercing etc is really a close comparison to doing an Orchiectomy. The cords once cut tend to go up into the body and if they are bleeding? You die. The groin are bleeds really well itself and is one of the areas most easily infected. Infections are not just a minor problem. These also can kill. I think some of the botched Orchiectomy procedures done by several doctors we all know quite well show that this is not a simple Do it yourself type of thing.

Trust me I understand and I do sympathize with your plight. I had to jump through a number of hoops. I also had to battle it out with my insurance and well... Lets just say things worked out but there were days I thought I should just throw up my hands quit and live with it. I've changed how I do hormones to make it more affordable. The system is far from perfect but there are ways to get insurance. I hope you are able to get on some plan soon.

Its far easier for me now to look back and say "ok, these steps were needed because there ARE weird UFO people who think they will miss the mother ship if they have their balls still attached."

When members of the Archive start to blast the moderators or impose their own rules? What do they expect? I don't go into a persons home and piss on the rug. If they have rules that I can not (or won't) accept I leave.

Re: Open note to the moderators

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 5:29 am
by A-1 (imported)
tugon (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:58 pm I am confused as why I was linked to Losethem"s post. Oh well I like my name in big bold letters.

a freudian slip, i guess. ...because I was less likely to get under your skin, probably. If you do not understand ask wolfie about getting under skin... 😄